Freightliner or Gbrf would be good guessesDB are going to be selling the 59/2s
I wonder who will buy them.
More likely GBRF as they will by anything. They bought 59003. Is there one rumoured for the NRM.Freightliner or Gbrf would be good guesses
It's true today, but it might change tomorrow lolGB Railfreight would certainly be a good bet if this is true; they currently seem to be undergoing an aggressive period of fleet expansion, snapping up whatever they can lay their hands on, presumably in anticipation of HS2 construction contracts being awarded.
I personally would hope that the NRM takes one of the original Yeoman examples rather than a 59/2, purely because of the development history associated with them. However, I'm not in charge!More likely GBRF as they will by anything. They bought 59003. Is there one rumoured for the NRM.
I personally would hope that the NRM takes one of the original Yeoman examples rather than a 59/2, purely because of the development history associated with them. However, I'm not in charge!
Not even 59005 for the heaviest UK train record?I think it's safe to assume that the NRM would only ever be interested in the much more important and widespread 66, I don't see how they could justify a 59 as well or instead.
That's interesting, I hadn't realised that. It would seem to put Freightliner in the frame for the 59/2s.Given the Mendip ones are going to transfer ownership to Freightliner, I'd reckon they might want the DB 59s as well. For DB the 59s will now be in a very small pool.
Freightliner already own the 59/0s and 59/1s, they are rumoured to have paid Mendips 1 million pounds each. I'm sure that's the sort of figure DB would hope to get for the 59/2sGiven the Mendip ones are going to transfer ownership to Freightliner, I'd reckon they might want the DB 59s as well. For DB the 59s will now be in a very small pool.
DB own all the loco they operate, their 66s were originally Angel owned but EWS took up the option to buy Angel out.59/2s, along with 66s are regularly used to run on the Central division of the old southern region, I guess so that they can nip along at 75mph in between the frequent passenger units. They are regularly used to Newhaven. There is a new rail served sea dredged aggregates terminal being built at Newhaven, with three paths allocated each week day to and from Acton. The 'bottom ash' from the incinerator forming the up flow. There is due to be a bagged aggregate plant and concrete block manufacturing plant. I would guess that GBFR would be a good bet as they have the yard at Tonbridge and they do operate working from Hoo to Tonbridge and Newhaven, sadly no facilities exist on the central division anymore. Who actually owns the 59/2s? Banks or rolling stock leasing companies? Or DB itself?
Freightliner already own the 59/0s and 59/1s, they are rumoured to have paid Mendips 1 million pounds each. I'm sure that's the sort of figure DB would hope to get for the 59/2s
Christ £1 million each, the 59's haven't lost any value considering how old they are. A bit more than a 58 or a late 56 which were built around the same time, or the Pacers and 150s.
Hydrogen Tri-Modal freight locos anyone? Sounds a bit pricey and again nothing off the shelf from the rest of the planet.
Good call! We should design, develop and sell the tech to others.
We used to build locos and rolling stock in the UK but you probably know the story there. There is no reason why we don't other than the entrenched political will / political ideology over the years for us to do this for ourselves. I suspect that as a nation we a taught not to value our railways, when do you ever see a positive railway story in the UK press, other than a non threatening 'steam train'. I spend a few weeks each year in Germany and Denmark and generally there does seem to be a national pride in their railway systems, both passenger and freight.
So I guess my point was that the reason these locos are still £1 million each, even after all these years, is we aren't building anything new so if you need a loco with the specific characteristics you're going to have to go second hand. 59s in Freightliner Orange?
The class 799 (319) tri-modal unit (750v DC, 25K AC and Hydrogen) looks interesting. I wonder what transferable tech is applicable to freight locos.
Realised gone well of topic....apologies.
My calculations came in at 3 container wagons of the Hydrogen to match 66 range (possibly more wagons for low RA).Just consider the fact were going to lose at least half a vehicle length to drag around 3 vehicles. How much space would we need to have sufficient power to haul 3000T.
CNG might be a way forward for heavy freight.
CNG no, LNG yes.Oh dear, I have only seen a couple of photos so hadn't realised that this was the case. I guess it is similar to the old Thumper DEMUs with the power units above the floor using up half a coat length. CNG is interesting, are there any freight locos using this tech already?