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A Goole-ish excursion

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Gathursty

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A day where I actually took not one, or two, but SIX trains, each for a meaningful distance. Two were parly services but all were varied and fun so let's begin with a summary:

Drove Wigan to Manchester Piccadilly then...
1220 MAN - Sheffield
1330 SHF - Sherburn-in-Elmet
25 minute walk
1515 South Milford - Selby
1558 Selby - Hull
1659 Hull - Goole
1849 Goole - Leeds
2012 Leeds - MAN

Tickets: 16-25 discounted MAN-HULL off-peak return
16-25 discounted Meadowhall - Sherburn-in-Elmet anytime day single

I had been aiming to just do the Goole line but when I was googling Goole (say that repeatedly quickly!) I noticed that I could include the main bit of the Sheffield-York twice daily parly on my way to Hull.

There were no delays or incidents but I couldn't help but feel that the section from Sheffield to Swinton via Rotherham and the Goole line all the way to just north of Castleford is bloody slow!!!

My first highlight was watching the passenger count almost deplete after Moorthorpe but not completely. There were some foreigners on who must be going to York or beyond for a holiday and one or two extra daytrippers. I recall about 2 getting on AND off at Baghill which I assume is heaving for this station.

The route has been climbing to this point and I now notice we are crossing major east-west routes as well as the large Ferrybridge powerplant and the nearby freight yard full of freight carriages just waiting.

Sherburn-in-Elmet awaits 5 minutes later where the sun pierces the cloud cover just long enough for me to perambulate the town which might have had a festival on going of faint noise and fellow pedestrians and children. google sent me down Pasture Way which cuts off the crossroads in the town centre.

Later, at South Milford, I wait for 10 minutes for my departure as I spot on the distant, opposite train calling in to pick up several who are dressed for a good time somewhere westward.

My train arrives with just me to welcome it. It is fairly loaded and we are decamped promptly in the bay platform at Selby. A scene from the Jeremy Kyle show plays out in the time it takes for my connecting service to arrive from Dewsbury, according to the interactive screen which must take readings from ATOC or something to know where the train has just passed.

I baulk at Selby station vending machine's offer of £1.70 and find the same bottle of Coke for £1.20 from the kiosk at the bowling green just outside. The shopkeeper contemplates the rain ruining his takings.

My train hits Wressle when a First Hull Train, class 180, I believe, comes streming through. I have never seen one of these in action before. I like what I see.

In Hull, a security guard directs me to M&S with instructions that baffle me when I see a sprawl of construction work on pedestrian streets outside the station that inhibit my view of the shop signs on the horizon. I decide I'd rather be at Goole early than be in Goole late and miss the main point of the day. I swiftly return to the fascinating roofscape that is the Paragon station.

I arrive at Goole mistakenly confident that I could use 1 hour and 10 minutes to go to the nearby McDonald's or Burger King. When I disembarked, it was very clear that my choices for refreshment were either the vending machine, the strewn bread slices all over platform 1 or whatever was available in Asda. I took the latter option which meant I had to brace the ceaseless rain. It further hammered down for the full hour, providing refuge in the station and a meeting point for the town's youth who must have thought I was nuts for being here an hour!!

At last the Goole service approaches with no-one getting off either of the three carriages. Ten minutes later, it shuffles across into position by using the crossover beyond the station and me and one other person join. I sit in the front carriage where I am joined by the conductor, driver and a trainee driver who is being detailed on the particulars of the Goole line. They finish their discussion with 3 minutes left for the service to depart.

I remain on the train to Leeds and keep a count of who uses the smaller stations to Knottingly:

Rawcliffe: 0
Snaith: 1 (but the local youth make full use of the shelter)
Hensall: -1 (the person who got on at Snaith)
Whitley Bridge: 0

The woman who started at Goole with me departs at Pontefract. I continue to suffer low line speeds but enjoy a rare swapping of ends at Castleford and then the pace picks up somewhat to Leeds which is heaving with revellers for the evening. I speed-walk as best I can from P17 to the matrix at P16 only to just need to stand right there for my last train home to Manchester Piccadilly on another rammed TPE service.

Throughout the journey my phone was dying and from beginning the day at 49%, it did well to die out just as we approached Ardwick. A pity the train didn't stop there as my car was parked on Blind Lane underneath with the phone charger.

I arrive home for 10pm, buzzing from the fact that I had 2 parlys under my belt for £40!
 
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Interesting! I have been thinking of doing Liverpool to Goole sticking to the route of the former mainline of the L&YR as closely as possible, the start and finish being almost the westernmost (disregarding Southport and Fleetwood!) and easternmost extremities of the system:

Liverpool Moorfields (closest to Exchange) - Kirkby - Wigan Wallgate (as the avaoiding line no longer exists) - Atherton - Man Vic - Hebden Bridge - Brighouse - Mirfield -Wakefield Kirkgate - Pontefract - Goole.

Apart from Moorfields - Kirkby (Merseyrail) it should be possible to do all this with a Northern £10 day rover while the special offer is on (until 17 July). Last time I checked the timetable it is feasible in about 6 hours!
 

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Sounds like a good day there but did I read the bottom bit right? You left your car at Ardwick? Do you hate it? ;)
 

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I've done the Leeds- Knottingley train a few times (as I have family up there) and the worst part is definitely the trundle round Castleford.

I'm planning to do the Goole parly in the summer.
 

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Sounds like a good day there but did I read the bottom bit right? You left your car at Ardwick? Do you hate it? ;)

;) I normally park it in the pay and display behind Piccadilly but I was in cheapskate mode. I did used to park it just off Fairfield Street until I noticed late one evening a year or two ago that it is the red light district so I park it a little further away and have a walk which I don't mind. It's about 10 minutes to the platform from here if the traffic lights synchronise with you.

I tend to go off the belief that my car is not worth stealing unlike an Audi or something worth doing time, or more cynically, a tag for. I am furiously touching wood now I've typed that >.<
 

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A good read! What did you think of the town of Goole?

As for the four smaller stations between Goole and Knottingley, generally Snaith sees the most passengers; it's the biggest place on the line and has things like pubs, an opticians, a pharmacy, a dentist's, a doctor's surgery, a library, a post office, a petrol station, corner shops, schools, takeaways and a Co-op.

As for the others, Whitley Bridge tends to come next as it serves both Eggborough (which has a population of 1,952 according to Wikipedia) and Whitley; Rawcliffe comes next, then Hensall. It strikes me that if Northern could instate at least a morning peak-time train from Goole to Leeds and one from Leeds to Hull via Goole, and then repeat those in the evenings, then you'd see quite a growth in custom at Snaith at least. Goole would get a direct Leeds link, and it would be possible to commute from Snaith, Eggborough, Rawcliffe and Whitley to the area's main economic centres. Perhaps the Leeds train would be routed through Wakefield, if that wouldn't, in terms of duration, be a prohibitively lengthy journey?
 

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A good read! What did you think of the town of Goole?

The rain really held me under the station canopy. I did venture up the high street and notice the port miscellanea down the road but I didn't go much further than the pedestrianised high street via Greggs and ASDA. My opinion of Goole is that it's very quiet unless there is more to see of Goole which is not near the station...?
 

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With such an appalling service, it is no surprise that so few people used the Goole - Knottingley section. Totally useless for anyone who wants a return trip towards Goole (& continuing to Hull, Doncaster or elsewhere.) And not very good for shopping / work trips towards Castleford & Leeds.
 

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If you went the other way at Goole you would have found a Tesco and Sainsburys Local ;)

There's also a good chippy (The King Fryer) in Estcourt Terrace. Go down the pedestrianised street and turn left by the roundabout. About 5 min walk from the station.
 

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Last time I checked, the reversal at Casvegas wasn't that rare ;)

With such an appalling service, it is no surprise that so few people used the Goole - Knottingley section. Totally useless for anyone who wants a return trip towards Goole (& continuing to Hull, Doncaster or elsewhere.) And not very good for shopping / work trips towards Castleford & Leeds.

Quite. I remember when me and Starmill did it, we purchased return tickets from Knottingley to Goole (we had a West Yorkshire day ticket other than that) at the Leeds Travel Centre. The lady on the desk was checking itineraries and found the train to Goole. "When are you coming back, there are no trains today" came the next response! Of course, she hadn't considered one may arrive in Goole and come back 10 minutes later!
 
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