Are Xmas Eve & 2nd Jan classed as "Off Peak Days"?

[beeza1]

I am travelling from Huddersfield to Birmingham New Street on 24th December, returning on the 2nd January, been checking fares on NRE as I want to travel early on both days (before 09:30), to my surprise it is showing "Off Peak" fares for all the services on both these dates, is this correct? Neither day is a Bank Holiday or a weekend.

 

[DaveNewcastle]

Yes, if the booking engines offer off-peak tickets all day on these days, then feel assured that it is correct.
In another thread, forum member cuccir noted that some services in the south of England will still carry the 'peak' time restrictions.

 

[Deerfold]

From http://www.brfares.com/#faredetail?orig=HUD&dest=BHM&grpd=0418&tkt=SVR

Restriction Code: 2V

Monday to Friday only - no
travel restrictions on any
other days.

OUTWARD & RETURN TRAVEL
By any train except those
scheduled to depart before
0930.

This restriction is lifted_all
day from Wednesday 24 December
2014 until Friday 2 January
2015 inclusive.

 

[island]

There is no such thing as an "off peak day".

Certain train operating companies choose to lift or ease some of the restrictions on some of the tickets they price during holiday periods such as Christmas and Easter. This should not be taken to be a general rule.

 

[yorkie]

Try not to laugh, but according to the rail industry, "Ticket terms and conditions are now the same across all train companies nationwide, so you know exactly where you stand" and the ticket names "names describe when you can buy or use a ticket".

Translated into English, this really means that, in fact, ticket terms and conditions vary wildly by train company, and in order to have a rough idea where you stand, you need to look up the restriction code for the specific ticket you hold. I personally find the website used above by Deerfold, www.brfares.com to be the easiest way.

 

[hairyhandedfool]

Try not to laugh, but according to the rail industry, "Ticket terms and conditions are now the same across all train companies nationwide, so you know exactly where you stand" and the ticket names "names describe when you can buy or use a ticket".

Translated into English, this really means that, in fact, ticket terms and conditions vary wildly by train company, and in order to have a rough idea where you stand, you need to look up the restriction code for the specific ticket you hold. I personally find the website used above by Deerfold, www.brfares.com to be the easiest way.

Last time I looked the Terms & Conditions for the Off-Peak Return ticket type were the same across the companies, it was the restrictions that varied wildly. I am, as always, open to being corrected if evidence should appear to the contrary.

 

[Deerfold]

Last time I looked the Terms & Conditions for the Off-Peak Return ticket type were the same across the companies, it was the restrictions that varied wildly. I am, as always, open to being corrected if evidence should appear to the contrary.

Are the restrictions not part of the terms for whichever specific Off-Peak ticket you're buying?

Surely this is just pedantic semantics?

 

[kieron]

Are the restrictions not part of the terms for whichever specific Off-Peak ticket you're buying?

Surely this is just pedantic semantics?

There are some things which are the same for all tickets of the same type (such as the validity period), but what happens over Christmas is not one of them.

For instance, 2V has a less generous exclusion period that 2W, but a more generous one than 2T.

 

[bb21]

There are some things which are the same for all tickets of the same type (such as the validity period), but what happens over Christmas is not one of them.

For instance, 2V has a less generous exclusion period that 2W, but a more generous one than 2T.

But of course 2T does not really need an exclusion period.

(Yes, I get what you mean.)

 

[hairyhandedfool]

Are the restrictions not part of the terms for whichever specific Off-Peak ticket you're buying?

Surely this is just pedantic semantics?

I guess it depends on your view point as to who is being pendantic.

 

[SickyNicky]

I am travelling from Huddersfield to Birmingham New Street on 24th December, returning on the 2nd January, been checking fares on NRE as I want to travel early on both days (before 09:30), to my surprise it is showing "Off Peak" fares for all the services on both these dates, is this correct? Neither day is a Bank Holiday or a weekend.

Even with the relaxed time restrictions, TrainSplit.com reckons you can save £20.30 on this journey by splitting tickets at Derby or £4.10 by splitting at Wolverhampton (if going via Manchester).