Yes, but there are many who will refuse to acknowledge the points being made. Having to repeat over and over again "it's about the conditions" gets tedious. People can by all means disagree but they really ought to be able to engage in robust two-way debate rather than blithely going "you're all greedy, you should just accept the [poor] deal, I'd sack the lot..." (I paraphrase but this sort of thing appears often among the bottom feeders in media comments sections) and not responding to the challenges posed in replies to their comment.
I get your point. The strength of feeling about driver posting here is very clear regarding the Ts&Cs. If you take the media comments in popular newspapers to heart though you are doomed to being a life of irritation regardless of your point of view.
Whether you agree or not, people are going to discuss public sector vs private sector, comparison with the nurses, the rights and wrongs of the need for reform etc and not all are going to agree with you, or think that their comparisons are not relevant.
I love the spirited conversation, debate and disagreements on here - but we so have to be able to disagree with each other without too much rancour - In my opinion
We had this discussion at our depot. A no strings pay deal for 2022 and also 2023 would get the dispute out of the way until such time as terms and conditions need to be discussed. At which point there would probably be a Labour government in power anyway
It seems you are not alone. I'm curious as to why the government chose to make the offer to the RMT that they did considering their negotiating stance to date, but they have, so I wonder what their path to a similar offer to the drivers is?