Assistance req'd for TGV (and one AVE) set numbers and details

[XAM2175]

I've been trying to clear up a few inconsistencies within my trip logs and would be very appreciative if anybody could supply the set number, power car numbers, and where applicable full UIC nos/EVNs and VKMs for these records:

> March 2012, TGV 9764, Genève-Paris
Partial vehicle number: 523 036

> September 2017, TGV 9777, Paris-Genève
Partial vehicle number: 3 844 172

> September 2019, AVE 9724, Madrid-Montpellier
EVN: 90 71 7100 220-3

> September 2019, TGV 6850, Montpellier-Lyon
EVN: 93 87 0292 287-4, VKM: F-SNCF
I'm fairly confident that this is set 287.

> September 2019, TGV 9773, Bellgarde-Genève
EVN: 93 87 3844 011-5, VKM: F-SNCF

Thanks very much!

 

[superalbs]

I've been trying to clear up a few inconsistencies within my trip logs and would be very appreciative if anybody could supply the set number, power car numbers, and where applicable full UIC nos/EVNs and VKMs for these records:

> March 2012, TGV 9764, Genève-Paris
Partial vehicle number: 523 036

> September 2017, TGV 9777, Paris-Genève
Partial vehicle number: 3 844 172

> September 2019, AVE 9724, Madrid-Montpellier
EVN: 90 71 7100 220-3

> September 2019, TGV 6850, Montpellier-Lyon
EVN: 93 87 0292 287-4, VKM: F-SNCF
I'm fairly confident that this is set 287.

> September 2019, TGV 9773, Bellgarde-Genève
EVN: 93 87 3844 011-5, VKM: F-SNCF

Thanks very much!

This is S100-020. As for the French stuff, I have no idea, their numbering system seems to be particularly confusing.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I've been trying to clear up a few inconsistencies within my trip logs and would be very appreciative if anybody could supply the set number, power car numbers, and where applicable full UIC nos/EVNs and VKMs for these records:

> March 2012, TGV 9764, Genève-Paris
Partial vehicle number: 523 036

18

> September 2017, TGV 9777, Paris-Genève
Partial vehicle number: 3 844 172

4417

> September 2019, AVE 9724, Madrid-Montpellier
EVN: 90 71 7100 220-3

> September 2019, TGV 6850, Montpellier-Lyon
EVN: 93 87 0292 287-4, VKM: F-SNCF
I'm fairly confident that this is set 287.

It is

> September 2019, TGV 9773, Bellgarde-Genève
EVN: 93 87 3844 011-5, VKM: F-SNCF

4401

 

[XAM2175]

This is S100-020. As for the French stuff, I have no idea, their numbering system seems to be particularly confusing.

Thanks. This has actually turned out be particularly vexing because this source appears to suggest something about set 20 being mixed in with set 22 after a fire in 2014 - but I could be mistaken because it seems to only list half the driving cars.

Ex Rama 101.102 (GL02), reformado en 2008 (según placas). Apartado por incendio 06/14. Tras el incendio, por lo menos el extremo 9-100-120-5 circuló en la rama 22. Visto con cabeza motriz de la rama 24. Ex-La Sagra. Circula con las motrices 100-220 y 100-224. Nombre Marseille.

Former Branch 101.102 (GL02), refurbished in 2008 (according to license plates). Set aside due to fire 06/14. After the fire, at least end 9-100-120-5 circulated on branch 22. Seen with the power head of branch 24. Ex-La Sagra. It circulates with motor vehicles 100-220 and 100-224. Name Marseille.

They also seem to have a spectacularly weird way of assigning EVNs: the passenger trailers are in type 90 (miscellaneous tractive stock) but the driving motors are in type 96 (specialised or fixed-formation trailers)?

4417
It is (287)
4401

Thanks very much!

18

Am I correct reading this as being PSE set 18? I'd originally thought that it would need to be one of the tri-current sets but I remember now that the line into Genève via La Plaine was run on French electrification and signalling until only recently.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Am I correct reading this as being PSE set 18? I'd originally thought that it would need to be one of the tri-current sets but I remember now that the line into Genève via La Plaine was run on French electrification and signalling until only recently.

That's the only one which fits the carriage number you quoted, yes.

 

[XAM2175]

That's the only one which fits the carriage number you quoted, yes.

Splendid thanks, you've been extremely helpful.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Splendid thanks, you've been extremely helpful.

Thank you... it probably helps that I have the Platform 5 French railways book, which details the TGV formations in summary.

 

[XAM2175]

Thank you... it probably helps that I have the Platform 5 French railways book, which details the TGV formations in summary.

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