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Saturday 2nd April 1983

87031 Liverpool LS to Crewe, 1A47 13.00 Liverpool to Euston
87026 Preston to Crewe, 1V18 13.20 Glasgow to Paddington
87014 Crewe to Preston, 1P70 14.40 Euston to Blackpool
25044 Preston to Poulton-le-Fylde, 1P70 14.40 Euston to Blackpool
40028 Poulton-le-Fylde to Preston, 1K33 18.40 Blackpool to Crewe
40028 Preston to Poulton-le-Fylde, 1P79 18.05 Euston to Blackpool
81008 Preston to WBQ

Bit of whistling and a rat!

Tuesday 2nd April 1985

Goyles!!

DMU Warrington C to Man Picc, 08.35 Liverpool to Manchester
31436 Man Picc to Hull, 09.41 Manchester to Hull
31402 Hull to Sheffield, 13.22 Hull to Brighton
31428 Sheffield to Doncaster, 13.41 Manchester to Hull
31459 Doncaster to Sheffield, 15.13 Hull to Manchester
31443 Sheffield to Doncaster, 15.41 Manchester to Hull
31428 Doncaster to Man Picc, 17.00 Hull to Manchester
DMU Man Picc to Padgate, 20.27 Manchester to Liverpool
 
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40152 1540 Preston – Carlisle via Blackburn, S&C
Snap !

Saturday2nd April 1983
50007 0550 Paddington-Manchester Piccadilly (Oxford-Birmingham New St)
86220 0813 Rugby-Liverpool Lime St (Birmingham New St-Crewe)
DMU Crewe-Chester
25284+40177 1149 Bangor-Manchester Piccadilly (Chester-Warrington Bank Quay)
86259 1200 Euston-Preston (from Warrington Bank Quay)
40152 1245 Euston-Glasgow C (Preston-Carlisle)
At Carlisle I decided not to do a trip to Annan and back in case the 'connection' was missed, most annoying when the train back from Annan (1730 ex Glasgow C) turned up behind the required 25060.....
81005 2050 Carlisle-Perth (to Mossend Yard)
26024 ditto (Mossend Yard-Larbert)
26026 2238 Glasgow Queen St-Dundee (Larbert-Stirling)
47550 1930 Inverness-Euston (Stirling-Mossend Yard)

Thursday 2nd April 1987 - Another Parisian evening excursion
BB67610 Paris Gare du Nord-Persan Beaumont
BB17083 Persan Beaumont-Valmondois
ZR16174 Valmondois-Ermont Euabonne
BB66417 Ermont Euabonne-St Ouen Garibaldi -This service was a remarkable survivor, which IIRC didn't last much longer.
 

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Firstly, a catch up from yesterday...

1st April 1990

47816 Newcastle - New Street (via Leicester)

Back to today...

2nd April 1983

Carlisle was clearly the place to be...

47156 Newcastle - Carlisle 1M04
25060 Carlisle - Annan 1S37 (sorry @Falcon1200 )
47537 Annan - Carlisle 1M06
47156 Carlisle - Newcastle 1S15

2nd April 1989

Heading back south during my time in Slough...

47564 Newcastle - New Street
47665 New Street - Reading
 
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2nd April 1983 Some North West Moves

47199 Carlisle - Preston via Settle , 23.55 Glasgow - Bristol

47203 Preston - Manchester Vic , 06.12 Morecambe - Manchester Vic

25083+25057 Manchester Pic - Manchester Oxford Road - 08.37 Manchester Pic - Aberystwyth

Unit Manchester Oxford Road - Manchester Pic. No time noted or train

45062 Manchester Vic - St Helens Jct

47166 St Helens Jct - Manchester - Victoria

47402 Manchester Vic - Stalybridge

45076 Stalybridge - Manchester Vic

Unit Manchester Vic - Preston

40028 Preston - Kirkham

Unit Kirkham - Preston

81008 Preston - Crewe ? No time noted or train but possibly V62

86230 Crewe - Leyland ,21.24 Bristol - Glasgow 1S19

47406 Leyland - Carlisle via Settle as above 1S19

81005 Carlisle - Glasgow 1S19

If anyone can assist with the missing times it would be much appreciated as i have nothing noted
 

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40028 Preston - Kirkham

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81008 Preston - Crewe ? No time noted or train but possibly V62

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If anyone can assist with the missing times it would be much appreciated as i have nothing noted
I had 40028 on 1P79, but according to Motherlist it worked 1P18 earlier in the day too.

I also had 81008 but I also don't know what train it was on.
 

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SUNDAY 2nd APRIL 1978:

A grand day out on the Lea Valley Railway Club (later renamed Hertfordshire Railtours) "Atlantic Coast Express" to Meldon Quarry and Meeth - 462 miles of Crompton haulage:

7379/7051/7350 Petersfield-Woking (06 30 Portsmouth Harbour-Waterloo)

33 105 + 418 + S1872 + 410 + 33 108 Woking-Salisbury-Exeter SD-Meldon Quarry-Crediton-Barnstaple-Meeth-Barnstaple-Exeter SD-Salisbury-Woking

7340/7052/7377 Woking-Petersfield (21 50 Waterloo-Portsmouth Harbour)

In those pre-Health & Safety days we were able to wander around the Meldon Quarry sidings at our leisure and even walk across the viaduct. I recall getting my shoes and trouser bottoms covered in wet china clay slurry while exploring the yard at Meeth.


SATURDAY 2nd APRIL 1983:

A long day out on the West Highland Line:

37 039 06 00 Glasgow QS HL-Fort William (Consist: M2581/2014/4921/21241/SC9005/24427/9360 Load 7 VB/SH)
27 054 Banking to Cowlairs
37 039 10 03 Fort William-Arisaig (to Mallaig. Consist: SC9360/24427/9005 Load 3 VB/SH)
37 192 Arisaig-Mallaig (12 55 from Fort William. Consist: SC34923/4906 Load 2 VB/SH)
37 192 16 10 Mallaig-Fort William (Consist: SC4906/34923 Load 2 VB/SH)
37 192 18 22 Fort William-Cowlairs West Junction (Consist: SC39423/4906/9005/M21241/4921/2014/2581 Load 7 VB/SH)
47 562 + failed 37 192 Cowlairs West Junction-Glasgow QS HL

37 192's exertions on the WHL evidently proved to be too much for it and it expired completely while awaiting signal clearance to join the main line at Cowlairs. The Duff was hastily summoned from the nearby Eastfield depot and arrival at Queen Street was only about 20 minutes late. Some of you may be wondering whether a certain (then) young Eastfield driver - known to be a desperate thrash merchant - was at the controls. I couldn't possibly comment! ;)
 
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Circular to Glasgow and back from Newcastle.

47433 10:30 Newcastle-Carlisle (DMU substitute)
90016 12:27 Carlisle-Glasgow Central
Walked Central to Queen Street
47704 14:00 Glasgow Queen St-Edinburgh
43042+43??? 15:30 Edinburgh Waverley-Newcastle
 

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This repeats a story first told here, please check out this thread for the full tale: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/easter-1983.208625/

474546 0234 Carlisle – Preston via S&C, Blackburn
86246 0528 Preston – Crewe
DMU Crewe – Manchester Piccadilly
45119 1141 Manchester Victoria – York
Home for a much needed change of clothes, then:
47447 1855 York – Stalybridge
DMU Stalybridge – Stockport
EMU Stockport – Crewe
81008 2334 Crewe – Farington Jn.

Wednesday 03/04/85
There was a regular flow of rock salt from Ince & Elton in Cheshire to Mossend, conveying salt for stockpiling to help grit Scotland's roads through the winter months. This was usually conveyed in some of the rottenest old open wagons still in existence on BR, hauled by a pair of equally suspect class 25s. The train ran along the WCML in the daytime, usually shedding salt and interfering with track circuits wherever it went. One side effect of this flow was that there was regularly a pair of 25s sitting idle at Mossend by late afternoon, available to work any additional services provided they were safely back to Mossend in time for the rock salt empties the following morning. So they were ideal traction for additional evening workings from Carstairs to Edinburgh, such as the semi-regular relief train from Exeter St Davids / Birmingham New Street. By chance, on this occasion I even found a decent way of getting there too:
81009 1720 Glasgow Central – Carstairs
25300 + 25276 1824 Carstairs – Edinburgh
477xx 20xx? Edinburgh – Glasgow Queen Street
(Records get a bit hazy at this point, so I suspect the demon drink may be involved …)

Sunday 03/04/94
A North Wales steam spectacular:
828 + 5029 1053 Crewe – Llandudno Junction
46203 1345 Llandudno Junction – Holyhead
4498 1600 Holyhead – Crewe
The return journey was an hour late start due to the 1530 Holyhead – Euston struggling with 43022 (shut down) and 43188 on it. Recovered to 30' late by Crewe.

Monday 03/04/95
37240 + 37153 0420 Edinburgh – Inverness via Stirling, Perth
156 474 Inverness – Thurso
Bus Thurso – Wick
156 446 Wick – Inverness
37153 + 37240 2030 Inverness – Edinburgh via Perth, Stirling
 

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Sunday 3rd April 1983
81005 1930 Inverness-Euston (Mossend Yard-Carlisle)
47464 ditto (Carlisle-Preston)
86239 ditto (Preston-Crewe)
47563 0715 Manchestet Piccadilly-Brighton (Crewe-Oxford) via Cannock; It was a good weekend for diversions !
 

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I know. It feels like the 91s will be withdrawn prematurely but then I think back to my beloved Westerns and Deltics. Less than 20 years in service for those. Funny how time plays tricks on the brain - I have often thought that each year now I am older feels shorter than each of my early years because a year now is a smaller proportion of my whole life.

Indeed, it's hard to believe that the time between, say, 1982 and the present is the same as the period between 1942 and 1982. Surely that cannot be true?

Likewise, the time between 1992 and the present is the same as the time between 1962 and 1992. Again very hard to believe.

And that the year I started using the railways (1982) was (at New Year) just 12 years after the end of the 1960s. Go back the same time from now and you end up in late 2009, which is basically one minute before the present, relatively speaking. The 21st-century decades do not have the same individual character as the late-20th-century decades had (apart from the fact that the 2020s have been thoroughly awful, so far) but many younger people might think differently.

I think also the mind tends to think that years before you were born, or in the very early years of your life, are thoroughly historic while anything from say age 10 onwards - and certainly age 18 onwards - still seems relatively recent.
 
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SATURDAY 27th MARCH 1976:

A fine day out to York on a Southern Region 'Pleasure Seeker' ADEX, originating at Portsmouth Harbour:

47 487 Petersfield-Dudding Hill Junction via Chertsey, Kew East Junction and Acton Wells Junction
45 025 Dudding Hill Junction-York via Leicester, Alfreton, Barrow Hill, Cudworth and Castleford
47 121 York-Petersfield via same route as outward
How often did these run and when did they stop? Sound an interesting concept, but were, AFAIK, gone by my day. Were they run by the Oxted line hauled stock which was un-needed at the weekends?
 

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Thank you for the responses on class 86s. Still I'm sure most would prefer a trip behind one today over a Pendolino or voyager!

I always liked the 86s. For me, like the other 8x electric locos, they represented the romance of domestic inter-city rail (as it still had for me in the early and mid-80s... nowadays I have to travel internationally to get the same thrill...)
 

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Indeed, it's hard to believe that the time between, say, 1982 and the present is the same as the period between 1942 and 1982. Surely that cannot be true?

Likewise, the time between 1992 and the present is the same as the time between 1962 and 1992. Again very hard to believe.

And that the year I started using the railways (1982) was (at New Year) just 12 years after the end of the 1960s. Go back the same time from now and you end up in late 2009, which is basically one minute before the present, relatively speaking. The 21st-century decades do not have the same individual character as the late-20th-century decades (apart from the fact that the 2020s have been thoroughly awful, so far).

I think also the mind tends to think that years before you were born, or in the very early years of your life, are thoroughly historic while anything from say age 10 onwards - and certainly age 18 onwards - still seems relatively recent.

I know what you mean, it's bizarre how the feeling of time passing works. In the autumn of 2023, it will have been 20 years since the HSTs screaming and clagging out of Swansea got me hooked on the hobby, that doesn't feel like quite that long ago.

In a similar vein, I work with people half my age, and that feels really quite strange when I look back and think it was actually X amount of years ago when I was their age. It doesn't feel like that long ago!

So it's 19 years this autumn since I got into the scene, so obviously while we're not that far into 2022 yet, 19 years from now is 2041. I don't know about any of you, but that feels like a long way away at the moment, but like nw1 says 19 years into the past feels like much less.

Quite, I still remember going to Manchester in early 2004 after finding out about the old DMUs still in operation up there. I think I went in May 2004, but I am not certain, that could have been its own trip and I went in maybe January 2004. It's too many years ago to be sure, and even if I had my notebooks I wasn't making any real accurate records at the time anyway. I had not long missed those old DMUs, but I certainly remember the magic of arriving in the city with so many trains to enjoy. Of course, there were 87s and 90s aplenty on VWC still back then, which were exciting on their own!

Anyway, before I get too bogged down in nostalgia I had best crack on with the chores of the day and get some studying done. Nostalgia time can be later this afternoon!
 

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Thursday 3rd April 1980

47298 Birmingham NS to Oxford

Think this was family trip.

Sunday 3rd April 1983

40028 Blackpool N to Preston, 1G03 16.07 Blackpool to Birmingham
87029 Preston to Crewe, 1G03 16.07 Blackpool to Birmingham

Monday 3rd April 1989

Three days of travel to and from training course. Morning meh, evening good.

47654 Oxford to Reading, 06.41 Wolves to Poole
50046 Reading to Oxford, 16.07 Paddington to Oxford
 

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I always liked the 86s. For me, like the other 8x electric locos, they represented the romance of domestic inter-city rail (as it still had for me in the early and mid-80s... nowadays I have to travel internationally to get the same thrill...)

To me, as a teenager living in the West Midlands in the 1980s, the problem with the 86s was that they were just too commonplace. The 81s to 85s had both a scarcity value and far better sound effects, and the 87s were both relatively rare and also seen by everyone in our group as the elite electrics.

One of the absolute highlights of those years was a driver offering us a cab ride from Coventry to Birmingham International in 87015. As the only one holding a valid piece (my trusty West Midlands Travelcard) I was the only one able to accept his kind offer. And he absolutely caned it too, 110 on the speedo between Berkswell and Hampton.

Happy days
 

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To me, as a teenager living in the West Midlands in the 1980s, the problem with the 86s was that they were just too commonplace. The 81s to 85s had both a scarcity value and far better sound effects, and the 87s were both relatively rare and also seen by everyone in our group as the elite electrics.
I know what you mean, though for me the WCML was "out of area" so I probably didn't see 86s, let alone 87s or "roarers", more than twice a year.
One of the absolute highlights of those years was a driver offering us a cab ride from Coventry to Birmingham International in 87015. As the only one holding a valid piece (my trusty West Midlands Travelcard) I was the only one able to accept his kind offer. And he absolutely caned it too, 110 on the speedo between Berkswell and Hampton.

Happy days
I never knowingly had an 87, but (as my interest in railways became somewhat less for a few years, to the point that I would not go out of my way to check the loco) I might have had 87 haulage on several occasions between 1989-92 or so as I did do Euston to Manchester on a few occasions round then.
 

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How often did these run and when did they stop? Sound an interesting concept, but were, AFAIK, gone by my day. Were they run by the Oxted line hauled stock which was un-needed at the weekends?
ISTR that there was a 'Pleasure Seeker' excursion - the Southern Region's equivalent of other regions' 'Merry-makers' - approximately every two months from South Western Division starting and pick-up points, so presumably the frequencies were similar from the other two divisions. The destinations were usually either historic cities or seaside resorts....and sometimes a combination of the two. Sometimes there was a connecting coach tour arranged in a particularly scenic area, such as North Devon, the Peak District or North Wales. I recall on one occasion in the mid-seventies travelling from Petersfield on a Sunday excursion from Portsmouth to Margate, Ramsgate and Canterbury West, formed of a 12 CIG EMU and running via Hounslow, East Putney, Longhedge Junction, Catford, Swanley and Faversham in both directions. However, the vast majority - and all those travelling to and through other regions - had to be loco-hauled. The eight car Oxted sets tended not not be used, as their TSOs had no tables....not ideal for a family day out. There were two main types of stock used, depending on the traction involved and the other regions route and line speed requirements. If one - or sometimes two - class 33s were working throughout, the consist was usually a ten car rake of SR air-braked, electric-heated Mark 1 stock (with one or more early mark 2 FKs, an RMB for the catering and a BCK at either end....taken from Clapham Yard's pool of boat train and spare vehicles. If, on the other hand, other regions' locos - usually class 47s - were involved and steam heating was required, Clapham's spare ten car vacuum-braked, dual-heated Mark 1 set would be used. This had been used on the Poole-Leeds/Newcastle service until the early seventies, when it had been replaced by Eastern Region Mark 2a air-braked stock. Unfortunately - with the exception of the two RB buffet cars (S1765 and 1766) - these vehicles had been victims of the great Southern Region bogie swap in 1969 and their Mark 1 bogies were extremely rough-riding at speed....sometimes seeming to travel further sideways than forwards! Every autumn at the end of October/beginning of November, there would be a trip to Blackpool for the illuminations, arriving in the resort at about 12 00 -13 00; returning overnight with a departure time of around midnight and often involving all sorts of convoluted engineering works diversions. I particularly the return journey on the 1974 trip - hauled by 47 484 "Isambard Kingdom Brunel", when we went via Chorley, Manchester Victoria, Ashton Moss Junction, Stockport, Stoke, Stafford, Bushbury Junction, Bescot, Aston, Birmingham New St, Stourbridge Junction, Worcester, Honeybourne, Cheltenham, Stroud, Swindon, Reading and Guildford. After this marathon, the train arrived back in Portsmouth about mid-norning on the Sunday!

Typical formations would have been:

AB/EH: BCK-TSO-TSO-TSO-FK-RMB-TSO-TSO-TSO-BCK

VB/DH: BSK-CK-TSO-TSO-RB-TSO-TSO-TSO-CK-BSK

Sometimes SKs would susbstitute for one or more of the TSOs in the air-braked sets. Destinations that I can remember - or have records of - included:

Exeter, Newton Abbot and Plymouth
Barnstaple....for coach tour of Exmoor and Lynton/Lynmouth
Alfreton....for coach tour of the Peak District and Crich Tramway Museum
York
Lincoln....for the Christmas market.
Spalding....for the spring flower festival (on one memorable occasion, the South Eastern Division ran a special to Spalding with two Hastings DEMUs!)
Worcester, Cheltenham and Gloucester....via the Cotswold line.
Chester....with coach trip of North East Wales
Central Wales circular....out via Swansea District Line and Llandovery and back via the Marches Line, with a two hour break in Shrewsbury (2 x 37s!)
Coventry, Birmingham and Wolverhampton (Christmas shopping....or train spotting!)
Bath and Bristol.
Newport and Cardiff
Swansea....with coach tour of the Gower peninsular
Weston-super-Mare
Stoke-on-Trent....with coach tour of the Staffordshire Moorlands
Edinburgh....for the Festival - returning overnight.
Clacton-on-Sea
Diss....with coach tour to Bressingham Gardens and railway museum
Norwich and Yarmouth
Cambridge, Ely and King's Lynn

....as well as the two destinations already mentioned above.

The trips were very competitively-priced and deservedly popular with both families, pensioners and rail enthusiasts. I'm not sure when they stopped....they were still going strong when I moved back to Scotland in early 1979, but had finished by the time I returned South at the end of 1983. Perhaps some other members may be able to share memories of similar excursions organised by other regions?
 

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Clapham's spare ten car vacuum-braked, dual-heated Mark 1 set would be used. This had been used on the Poole-Leeds/Newcastle service until the early seventies,
I remember one morning in the early 80s seeing a Newcastle - Poole additional. Presumably there had been a northbound additional the previous day. Anyway, I did notice that this consisted of a rake of Southern Region stock, so it could well have been the set you referred to.
 

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As I was growing up through the 70s, the London Division of the Western Region had quite an extensive set of special trains running every year. At the time there were several Oxford - Paddington loco-hauled commuter trains on weekdays, which were spare at weekends (except in peak summer months), so for the longer distance runs there was always some stock available. The locos were invariably 47s for the inter-regional services e.g. Shrewsbury, Chester, York, Norwich. For destinations on the estern, it was still mostly 47s, but also the occasional Western. Some trips were operated with 10-car class 117 DMU rakes. That was 3 x 3-car sets, with one of the sets strengthened with a random Met-Cammell trailer, of which there were three (I think) allocated to the London Division. I remember going on trips to Swanage and Minehead that were DMU operated. There was quite a thriving department handling all these extra trains, based in Western Tower in Reading, opposite the station. We were on the mailing list, so would receive the programme for the next 7-8 months twice a year. It was a really sensible use of marginal resources,
 

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THURSDAY 3rd APRIL 1975:

I had arrived at my grandparents' house on Teesside in my parent's car for a few days' stay over Easter and I decided to do a day trip to Scotland using one of the special cheap tickets available at the time, as this was a few months before I started working on the railway:

E50263/E50246 Stockton-Darlington
47 406 Darlington-Edinburgh
27 108 + 27 203 Edinburgh-Gl;asgow QS HL via Falkirk High
303 073 Glasgow QS LL-Helensburgh Central via Singer
27 011 Helensburgh Upper-Glasgow QS HL
27 203 + 27 108 Glasgow QS HL-Edinburgh via Falkirk High
47 406 Edinburgh-Darlingtom
E56072/E50294 Darlington-Thornaby

A nice trip, but a bad day for duplicate haulage!


FRIDAY 3rd APRIL 1981:

Another weekend down South visiting my girlfriend in London and friends in Hampshire:

314 211 Hyndland-Glasgow QS LL (08 01 Milngavie-Airdrie)
87 029 16 10 Glasgow Central-Euston (Consist: M81142/3316/11032/3285/1741/12035/12078/12096/12036/12046/5926 Load 11 AB/EH)

WEDNESDAY 3rd APRIL 2019:

Returning from our place in Italy:

EMU TFT R 6167, 10 50 Pratovecchio Stia-Arezzo
E464 467 RV 3158, 12 45 Arezzo-Firenze SMN (from Roma Termini)
ETR575 18 NTV (Italo) 9934, 15 25 Firenze-Torino Porta Susa (from Napoli Centrale-Torino Porta Nuova)
 

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Perhaps some other members may be able to share memories of similar excursions organised by other regions?
During my time as a student in Loughborough in the mid 70s, I and others, took advantage some of the Merrymakers organised by Nottingham Division, typically a rake of VB Mk1s. probably around 11/12 coaches often with a class 45 or sometimes a 47, and always good value, generally picking up at Loughborough and Leicester, possibly elsewhere too. Those I do recall using were:
  • Bristol, Exeter and Plymouth - destination down to personal choice, and having chosen Exeter and then set off for a trip towards Basingstoke, I realised I had an in date return portion from St Pancras to Loughborough in my wallet so I continued to London and a trip on the MML took me back to Loughborough with an earlier arrival than if I had gone back to Exeter for the return of the excursion.
  • Plymouth, stations in Cornwall to Penzance - this I recall was overnight certainly outward and I think also on the return and provided an opportunity to only to visit Cornwall for the first time but to cover all of the branches (plus the main line) in one day
  • Bournemouth - I think I took the opportunity to have a first trip to Weymouth. Routings around London were of great interest to one less familiar with anything beyond Euston/St Pancras or Kings Cross
  • Hastings - obviously not via Battle!
Other trips went northwards (perhaps starting Leicester?), probably westwards and eastwards too, but I don't recall using any of these although I may have done. Are there any offerings from my fellow former students @Shrop and @Peterthegreat to add to my memories?

If a group of us went as an official 'Railway Society' outing we were then eligible for a grant towards 'travel costs' from the Student Union, unlike most Union sponsored societies travel costs were of course (other than food and drink) the whole cost of our outing!
 

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During my time as a student in Loughborough in the mid 70s, I and others, took advantage some of the Merrymakers organised by Nottingham Division, typically a rake of VB Mk1s. probably around 11/12 coaches often with a class 45 or sometimes a 47, and always good value, generally picking up at Loughborough and Leicester, possibly elsewhere too. Those I do recall using were:
  • Bristol, Exeter and Plymouth - destination down to personal choice, and having chosen Exeter and then set off for a trip towards Basingstoke, I realised I had an in date return portion from St Pancras to Loughborough in my wallet so I continued to London and a trip on the MML took me back to Loughborough with an earlier arrival than if I had gone back to Exeter for the return of the excursion.
  • Plymouth, stations in Cornwall to Penzance - this I recall was overnight certainly outward and I think also on the return and provided an opportunity to only to visit Cornwall for the first time but to cover all of the branches (plus the main line) in one day
  • Bournemouth - I think I took the opportunity to have a first trip to Weymouth. Routings around London were of great interest to one less familiar with anything beyond Euston/St Pancras or Kings Cross
  • Hastings - obviously not via Battle!
Other trips went northwards (perhaps starting Leicester?), probably westwards and eastwards too, but I don't recall using any of these although I may have done. Are there any offerings from my fellow former students @Shrop and @Peterthegreat to add to my memories?

If a group of us went as an official 'Railway Society' outing we were then eligible for a grant towards 'travel costs' from the Student Union, unlike most Union sponsored societies travel costs were of course (other than food and drink) the whole cost of our outing!
I travelled on many Merrymakers from the East Midlands over the years, to destinations at Plymouth, Paignton, Llandudno, Edinburgh and Scarborough. The annual one to Edinburgh was very popular and I last travelled on it in October 1983. IIRC they ceased running from the East Midlands a year or so later.
 

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ISTR that there was a 'Pleasure Seeker' excursion - the Southern Region's equivalent of other regions' 'Merry-makers' - approximately every two months from South Western Division starting and pick-up points, so presumably the frequencies were similar from the other two divisions. The destinations were usually either historic cities or seaside resorts....and sometimes a combination of the two. Sometimes there was a connecting coach tour arranged in a particularly scenic area, such as North Devon, the Peak District or North Wales. I recall on one occasion in the mid-seventies travelling from Petersfield on a Sunday excursion from Portsmouth to Margate, Ramsgate and Canterbury West, formed of a 12 CIG EMU and running via Hounslow, East Putney, Longhedge Junction, Catford, Swanley and Faversham in both directions. However, the vast majority - and all those travelling to and through other regions - had to be loco-hauled. The eight car Oxted sets tended not not be used, as their TSOs had no tables....not ideal for a family day out. There were two main types of stock used, depending on the traction involved and the other regions route and line speed requirements. If one - or sometimes two - class 33s were working throughout, the consist was usually a ten car rake of SR air-braked, electric-heated Mark 1 stock (with one or more early mark 2 FKs, an RMB for the catering and a BCK at either end....taken from Clapham Yard's pool of boat train and spare vehicles. If, on the other hand, other regions' locos - usually class 47s - were involved and steam heating was required, Clapham's spare ten car vacuum-braked, dual-heated Mark 1 set would be used. This had been used on the Poole-Leeds/Newcastle service until the early seventies, when it had been replaced by Eastern Region Mark 2a air-braked stock. Unfortunately - with the exception of the two RB buffet cars (S1765 and 1766) - these vehicles had been victims of the great Southern Region bogie swap in 1969 and their Mark 1 bogies were extremely rough-riding at speed....sometimes seeming to travel further sideways than forwards! Every autumn at the end of October/beginning of November, there would be a trip to Blackpool for the illuminations, arriving in the resort at about 12 00 -13 00; returning overnight with a departure time of around midnight and often involving all sorts of convoluted engineering works diversions. I particularly the return journey on the 1974 trip - hauled by 47 484 "Isambard Kingdom Brunel", when we went via Chorley, Manchester Victoria, Ashton Moss Junction, Stockport, Stoke, Stafford, Bushbury Junction, Bescot, Aston, Birmingham New St, Stourbridge Junction, Worcester, Honeybourne, Cheltenham, Stroud, Swindon, Reading and Guildford. After this marathon, the train arrived back in Portsmouth about mid-norning on the Sunday!

Typical formations would have been:

AB/EH: BCK-TSO-TSO-TSO-FK-RMB-TSO-TSO-TSO-BCK

VB/DH: BSK-CK-TSO-TSO-RB-TSO-TSO-TSO-CK-BSK

Sometimes SKs would susbstitute for one or more of the TSOs in the air-braked sets. Destinations that I can remember - or have records of - included:

Exeter, Newton Abbot and Plymouth
Barnstaple....for coach tour of Exmoor and Lynton/Lynmouth
Alfreton....for coach tour of the Peak District and Crich Tramway Museum
York
Lincoln....for the Christmas market.
Spalding....for the spring flower festival (on one memorable occasion, the South Eastern Division ran a special to Spalding with two Hastings DEMUs!)
Worcester, Cheltenham and Gloucester....via the Cotswold line.
Chester....with coach trip of North East Wales
Central Wales circular....out via Swansea District Line and Llandovery and back via the Marches Line, with a two hour break in Shrewsbury (2 x 37s!)
Coventry, Birmingham and Wolverhampton (Christmas shopping....or train spotting!)
Bath and Bristol.
Newport and Cardiff
Swansea....with coach tour of the Gower peninsular
Weston-super-Mare
Stoke-on-Trent....with coach tour of the Staffordshire Moorlands
Edinburgh....for the Festival - returning overnight.
Clacton-on-Sea
Diss....with coach tour to Bressingham Gardens and railway museum
Norwich and Yarmouth
Cambridge, Ely and King's Lynn

....as well as the two destinations already mentioned above.

The trips were very competitively-priced and deservedly popular with both families, pensioners and rail enthusiasts. I'm not sure when they stopped....they were still going strong when I moved back to Scotland in early 1979, but had finished by the time I returned South at the end of 1983. Perhaps some other members may be able to share memories of similar excursions organised by other regions?

OK thanks for that - sound interesting! That return from Blackpool certainly sounds convoluted to say the least - shame most of it would have been under pitch darkness.

I started using the railways in September 1982 and I never noticed any then - the only specials left by the early-mid 80s were occasional relief services (usually Mk-I stock) and the 'Saga Specials' which ran every Wednesday from Newcastle-Portsmouth and v.v (47 + Mk-I). I presume football specials still ran in the 80s but don't recall ever noticing one.

We did get our daily InterCity to Manchester from the Direct by then though...
 

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I did five Merrymakers from Newcastle:

Inverness
Fort William
Llandudno
Birmingham (and Stratford on Avon)
Oxford (and Didcot)

Variously described in this thread.
 

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Monday 04/04/83
This repeats a story first told here, please check out this thread for the full tale: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/easter-1983.208625/
40028 00xx Farington Jn – Carlisle via S&C
86242 03xx Carlisle – Mossend via Holytown, Wishaw
26039 05xx Mossend – Cowlairs via Gartsherrie South Jn., Gartcosh Jn., Springburn
37184 + 37033 06xx Cowlairs – Tulloch
37039 0955 Tulloch – Glasgow Queen Street
47710 1400 Glasgow Queen Street – Edinburgh
43xxx + 43067 1500 Edinburgh – Newcastle
45102 1718 Newcastle – York

Thursday 04/04/91
A family trip to visit my parents:
43002 + 43024 1601 Reading – Plymouth via Westbury

Monday 04/04/94
4472 (60103) 1142 Glyndyfrdwy – Llangollen
34027 1215 Llangollen – Glyndyfrdwy

Tuesday 04/04/95
87035 0125 Edinburgh – Northampton
The Inverness – Euston sleepers re-engined as booked at Edinburgh, but 87035 developed a fault at Nuneaton, and came forward on only 3 traction motors. With a heavy train (16 vehicles) they didn't want to take risks, so we were diverted to Northampton where 86207 dropped on the front:
86207 (0749) Northampton – Euston 82' late.
 

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Sunday 03/04/83

81008 2334 Crewe – Farington Jn.

Monday 04/04/83

40028 00xx Farington Jn – Carlisle via S&C

Monday 4th April 1983

81008 Wigan NW to Farington Junc, 1S06 21.00 Euston to Stranraer
40028 Farington Junc to Carlisle via S&C, 1S06 21.00 Euston to Stranraer

Then, somehow ended up in Chester (!)

40044 Chester to Crewe, 1K11 08.15 Holyhead to Crewe
87010 Preston to Crewe, 1V87 09.15 Glasgow to Bristol
87005 Crewe to Lime St, 1M37 09.50 Paddington to Liverpool
85028 Crewe to WBQ
40015 WBQ to Man Vic, 1J53 15.17 Holyhead to Man Vic
25221 Flint to WBQ, 1J31 19.25 Bangor to Man Vic

Tuesday 4th April 1989

47478 Oxford to Reading, 06.41 Wolves to Poole
50046 Reading to Oxford, 16.07 Paddington to Oxford
 

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Perhaps some other members may be able to share memories of similar excursions organised by other regions?

As I was growing up through the 70s, the London Division of the Western Region had quite an extensive set of special trains running every year.

There were indeed some excellent excursions from the WR, when I lived in Oxford:

We went on a Saturday Holiday Preview Express (these ran in the Spring to allow people to look round resorts) to Blackpool, this would have been around 1974 as it was soon after Blackpool North was relocated to the excursion platforms (rather appropriate !) Of course, as soon as we arrived at Blackpool we took the first train back to Preston and spotted there.
On the 19th April 1975 there was a Saturday special to, I think, York, which stopped at Sheffield, allowing us to visit Wath and Tinsley. IIRC this train did not actually stop at Oxford and we had to go to Reading first to join it, on the way back it did stop briefly at Didcot and we managed to alight there (I won't go into detail on that....)

Unfortunately I have no records of the traction on these trips, and can't find any info on Six Bells Junction.

In Summer 1977 we took, as CW2 says, a Sunday multi-Class 117 DMU special to Barry Island, the attractions for us there were the scrapyard, and a trip to Radyr via Cardiff.
And finally, on the 11th November 1978, a month after I joined BR, there was a day trip to Glasgow (!), a long day but the Inter City Railway Society had organised a coach trip to various Glasgow Depots.

Those were great days out.

Wednesday 4th April 1984
87028 1510 Glasgow C-Euston (to Preston)
86251 1747 Preston-Crewe
85030 1620 Holyhead-Euston (Crewe-Birmingham New St)
47534 1840 Manchester Piccadilly-Paddington (Birmingham New St-Oxford)
 

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