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Well I suppose we should be glad the Caledonian Sleepers still exist, as they continue to provide some entertainment with their 66 + 73 combinations, but it's not quite the same as having a full-sized train with a pair of random 37s on it.

Anyway, back to the tales:

Friday 07/11/80
I was heading north to visit a friend in Edinburgh. There wasn’t anything on offer of interest at Kings Cross, so I headed out of Euston:
86002 2055 Euston – Crewe
That’s enough 86 mileage thanks very much. I alighted at Crewe in the hope of something better …

Friday 07/11/86
While I was at work in Glasgow Control, I overheard some of the problems occurring on the West Highland Line. There was no class 37 to work the 1220 Glasgow Queen Street – Oban, so 27046 was turned out for the train. 27s on the West Highland Line on passenger were very rare by this time, so I looked forward to having a run later in the day on its return from Oban. Alas, it wasn’t to be – it failed at Helensburgh on the way north. Thus:
37406 1650 Glasgow Queen Street – Crianlarich
37133 (+27046 dead) 1911 Crianlarich – Glasgow Queen Street

Saturday 07/11/92
37403 0337 Edinburgh – Fort William via Falkirk High, Cowlairs Curve, Westerton
… and onto the steam tour …
2005 1336 Fort William – Edinburgh via Westerton, Cowlairs Curve, Falkirk High
37406 1839 Craigendoran – Edinburgh, piloting 2005
This was an SRPS railtour, and I had booked a meal with them, vegetarian option. Alas, the order got lost, so the waiting staff / chef had to improvise. In the end I had my three course meal, just served in reverse order, with the dessert course first, followed by the main course, and finishing with the soup!. Whilst all this was going on, 2005 was making extremely heavy weather of the climb to Glen Douglas, taking about 2 hours and 4 attempts to get to the summit (and completely destroying the train service in the process). So I remember this tour as being the one in which I had a meal served backwards whilst the train was going backwards, as we kept reversing down the hill for another try! 37406 was attached as pilot loco at Craigendoran Junction, with 2005 in light steam only from there. 118’ late into Edinburgh.

Sunday 07/11/93
After a night in Inverness, it was time to come out for the railtour with 44871 to deliver it to Aviemore. The first surprise of the day was seeing the HST on the 0945 to Kings Cross was being piloted by 37175, as 43109 was shut down. (It seemed to be working OK the previous evening!).
44871 0950 Inverness – Aviemore
At Aviemore a special had been arranged with Caledonian Railway 828:
828 1130 Aviemore Speyside – Boat of Garten
828 1230 Boat of Garten – Aviemore Speyside
37431 was lined up to work our special back to Inverness. As we waited there, an Inter City Land Cruise came through southbound, with the immaculate set of Mk 1s in Inter City Livery. To our surprise, there were also a couple of Inter City liveried 37s hauling the train, namely 37683 + 37685 off the sleepers. I believe this was at the request of the organiser, so as to have a uniform liveried train – and very smart it was too. It was good news for us too, as that meant we were guaranteed to get a “proper” pair of 37s on the southbound overnight:
37431 1330 Aviemore – Inverness
… and so it proved …
37251 + 37170 2020 Inverness – Edinburgh via Stirling
(Monday 08/11/93)
87026 0131 Edinburgh – Euston (via Carstairs avoider)
 
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SATURDAY 7th NOVEMBER 1981:

08 30 Milngavie-Airdrie: 303 036 + 303 037 Hyndland-Glasgow QS LL
09 35 Glasgow QS-Aberdeen: 47 268 Glasgow QS-Perth (Consist: SC5156/5207/5082/5097/1848/13410/9416 Load 7 VB/DH)
11 05 Perth-Edinburgh: 26 033 Perth-Edinburgh (Consist: SC14005/4216/4193/W4761 Load 4 VB/SH)
14 52 Edinburgh-Glasgow Central via Shotts: 107 427 (SC52018/59806/51987)
16 36 Glasgow QS HL-Fort William/Mallaig: 37 081 Glasgow QS-Helensburgh Upper (Consist: SC4153/4053/4763/14040/9002 Load 5 VB/SH)
18 52 Helensburgh Central - Airdrie: 303 024 Helensburgh Central-Hyndland via Yoker
 

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SATURDAY 7th NOVEMBER 1981:

08 30 Milngavie-Airdrie: 303 036 + 303 037 Hyndland-Glasgow QS LL

That reminds me: I used to wind up my colleagues in Glasgow Control by deliberately pronouncing "Milngavie" as "Millungavvy". Somebody would bite every time!
 

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That reminds me: I used to wind up my colleagues in Glasgow Control by deliberately pronouncing "Milngavie" as "Millungavvy". Somebody would bite every time!
Ha, ha! Just as well you weren't working there when Ravenstruther coal terminal opened! :D
 

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7th November 1987

86418 New St - Wolverhampton 1G25

No idea why I went to Wolverhampton, or how I got back!

7th November 1997

A day of double heading on the Gloucestershire and Warwickshire...

D7629 + D8137 Toddington - Gotherington
D8137 + D7629 Gotherington - Toddington
D7629 + D8137 Toddington - Gotherington
D8137 + D7629 Gotherington - Toddington
47105 + D7629 Toddington - Gotherington
D7629 + 47105 Gotherington - Toddington
 

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Ha, ha! Just as well you weren't working there when Ravenstruther coal terminal opened! :D
I thought Milngavie was "Millungavvy" until my first time there in September. :smile:

How do you pronounce Ravenstruther?
 

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I thought Milngavie was "Millungavvy" until my first time there in September. :smile:

How do you pronounce Ravenstruther?
Renstrie.

We also got quite a lot of mileage out of kidding a well-known basher that "Milngavie" was pronounced "Fludgewick". He knew it wasn't "Millungavvy", but was suspicious of our pronunciation, so over the course of the next few days we carefully dropped the Fludgewick branch into the conversation whenever he was around. He returned south convinced that Milngavie was pronounced Fludgewick. I wonder how long it took him to discover the truth.
 

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Renstrie.

We also got quite a lot of mileage out of kidding a well-known basher that "Milngavie" was pronounced "Fludgewick". He knew it wasn't "Millungavvy", but was suspicious of our pronunciation, so over the course of the next few days we carefully dropped the Fludgewick branch into the conversation whenever he was around. He returned south convinced that Milngavie was pronounced Fludgewick. I wonder how long it took him to discover the truth.

Thanks.

Don't think I would have guessed Renstrie in a million years :lol:
 

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Saturday 8th November 1980

Merrymaker excursion, Nottingham to Edinburgh via S&C line

47054 07:43 Nottingham-Leeds-Carlisle-Edinburgh
DMU 14:52 Waverley-Haymarket (to visit Haymarket Depot)
47708 16:29 Haymarket-Waverley

Visited the station bar for a pint prior to the return journey. As we left there our train pulled in, and amazingly it had a Class 40 at its head. No idea what had happened to 47054!!

40101 18:18 Edinburgh-Carlisle-Leeds-Nottingham

Unexpected haulage by 40101 over Beattock and Ais Gill, but unfortunately the whole journey was in darkness.
 

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Saturday 8th November 1980

Merrymaker excursion, Nottingham to Edinburgh via S&C line

47054 07:43 Nottingham-Leeds-Carlisle-Edinburgh
DMU 14:52 Waverley-Haymarket (to visit Haymarket Depot)
47708 16:29 Haymarket-Waverley

Visited the station bar for a pint prior to the return journey. As we left there our train pulled in, and amazingly it had a Class 40 at its head. No idea what had happened to 47054!!

40101 18:18 Edinburgh-Carlisle-Leeds-Nottingham

Unexpected haulage by 40101 over Beattock and Ais Gill, but unfortunately the whole journey was in darkness.
Wow, 47054 was a duff of some legend - as we shall see in a few days. 40101 was a certain step up in class. 40s to Nottingham weren't exactly common either.

Meanwhile, here's my contribution for this date:

Wednesday 08/11/78
An afternoon Deltic bash:
55002 1428 York – Darlington
55008 1632 Darlington – York

Saturday 08/11/80
A friend in Edinburgh was having a bit of a personal crisis, so I set off to visit her for the day:
81013 0107 Crewe – Carstairs
47520 0449 Carstairs – Edinburgh
My arrival on her doorstep in the student halls of residence was a little unexpected!
After spending the day in Edinburgh, I headed back south, hoping for either a 40 or a Deltic. I got the latter:
55004 2225 Edinburgh – Kings Cross via Leamside, Stockton, Selby, Joint Lines
… and home to bed!

Monday 08/11/82
Sometimes a little knowledge is a dangerous thing – I was told that 40034 was allocated to the 0005 Kings Cross – Newcastle, so I set off on an HST to London to have it:
43118 + 43064 2053 York – Kings Cross
Unfortunately in the time it took me to reach Kings Cross, the allocations were changed, and 40034 was stepped up to the 2300 Kings Cross – Edinburgh via Leeds, which we just missed at Kings Cross. So what would work the 0005 to Newcastle then?
(Tuesday 09/11/82)
31217 0005 0005 Kings Cross – York
At least I needed the 31 for haulage. It lost 20 minutes to York, where we arrived just in time to miss 40034 once again, running an hour late, as it headed north towards Edinburgh. Not a very productive night out!

Saturday 08/11/86
Shift change over time on a Saturday was 1300, so I just had time to get to Glasgow Central to pick up the 1310 to Euston, which exceptionally had a Roarer on it:
85030 1310 Glasgow Central – Euston
10’ late, due to some adverse signals. A fine run.
86102 1925 Euston – Liverpool Lime Street
DMU Liverpool Lime Street – Wigan North Western

Friday 08/11/91
Returning from a course in Stoke on Trent:
87035 1511 Stoke on Trent – Euston
43189 + 43186 1835 Paddington – Reading

Sunday 08/11/92
After an overnight stay in Edinburgh off the railtour from Fort William, it was an early start for the second railtour of the weekend:
26006 + 26037 0834 Edinburgh – Aberdeen via Dunfermline
60009 1330 Aberdeen – Inverkeithing via Perth, Dunfermline
26006 + 26037 1820 Inverkeithing – Edinburgh
Another splendid day out, with Number 9 performing well.
Next it was time for an HST to Montrose to intercept the southbound sleeper:
43104 + 43038 1915 Edinburgh – Montrose via Dunfermline
37214 + 37175 2147 Montrose – Edinburgh via Dunfermline
37175 was a relatively common boilered loco, but 37214 was required.
(Monday 09/11/92)
87002 0022 Edinburgh – Euston (via Carstairs avoider)
 

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SUNDAY 8th NOVEMBER 1981:

Engineering work diversions in Fife:

09 15 Partick-Airdrie: 303 025 Partick-Glasgow QS LL
09 45 Glasgow QS HL-Kings Cross: 43 078+43 059 Glasgow QS-Edinburgh via Falkirk Grahamston
11 25 Edinburgh-Aberdeen: 47 517 Edinburgh-Markinch via Cardenden
15 20 Dundee-Edinburgh: 25 079 Markinch-Haymarket via Cardenden
17 00 Edinburgh-Glasgow QS HL: 47 705 Haymarket-Glasgow QS via Falkirk Grahamston
17 35 Airdrie-Partick: 303 025 Glasgow QS LL-Partick

Consist of 09 45 GLQ-KGX: E41101/41102/W40303/E42201/42202/42203/42204/44064 (2+8 HST)
Consist of 11 25 EDB-ABN: SC5107/1845/M35452/M16128/M25720/M35058 (Load 6 VB/DH)
Consist of 15 20 DDE-EDB: SC14000/5164/4438/4213 (Load 4 VB/SH)
Consist of 17 00 EDB-GLQ: SC9707/11004/12012/12029/12016 (Load 5 AB/EH)
 

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8th November 1998

A year and a day after visiting the Gloucestershire and Warwickshire I was back...

D7629 Toddington - Gotherington
D7629 Gotherington - Winchcombe
37215 Winchcombe - Gotherington
37215 Gotherington - Toddington
D7629 Toddington - Gotherington
D7629 Gotherington - Toddington
D9539 + D2182 Toddington - Winchcombe
DMU Winchcombe - Toddington (Well, nothing in my moves book, so either it was a unit or I walked!)
37215 Toddington - Gotherington
37215 Gotherington - Toddington
D7629 + 24081 Toddington - Gotherington
24081 + D7629 Gotherington - Toddington

Good that I didn't have to put up with a Duff this time round, and a few runs behind the Syphon was the highlight.

Again. a phot I've posted previously, but here are the Teddy Bear and the Flower Pot in action...

D9539 D2182.jpg

I was back at the GWR a couple of years ago. The line is now twice as long and they've got twice as many 37s. So double the fun. They certainly provide plenty of entertainment opening up in Greet Tunnel.
 

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Apologies for veering off topic, but that photo has reminded me of something I’ve wondered about a few times over the years. Why were so many class 14s preserved? 19 out of 56 for what doesn’t strike me as a particularly long-lived or notable class
 

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8th November 1998

A year and a day after visiting the Gloucestershire and Warwickshire I was back...

D7629 Toddington - Gotherington
D7629 Gotherington - Winchcombe
37215 Winchcombe - Gotherington
37215 Gotherington - Toddington
D7629 Toddington - Gotherington
D7629 Gotherington - Toddington
D9539 + D2182 Toddington - Winchcombe
DMU Winchcombe - Toddington (Well, nothing in my moves book, so either it was a unit or I walked!)
37215 Toddington - Gotherington
37215 Gotherington - Toddington
D7629 + 24081 Toddington - Gotherington
24081 + D7629 Gotherington - Toddington

Good that I didn't have to put up with a Duff this time round, and a few runs behind the Syphon was the highlight.

Again. a phot I've posted previously, but here are the Teddy Bear and the Flower Pot in action...

View attachment 105329

I was back at the GWR a couple of years ago. The line is now twice as long and they've got twice as many 37s. So double the fun. They certainly provide plenty of entertainment opening up in Greet Tunnel.

It’s a great railway, I’ve been enjoying it more than the nearby Severn Valley recently even though it’s not quite so all bells and erm, whistles…
 

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Apologies for veering off topic, but that photo has reminded me of something I’ve wondered about a few times over the years. Why were so many class 14s preserved? 19 out of 56 for what doesn’t strike me as a particularly long-lived or notable class
Was it perhaps that they entered industrial service after BR withdrew them, so there was a ready pool of locos suitable for a secondary branch line with low linespeed?
 

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Wow, 47054 was a duff of some legend - as we shall see in a few days. 40101 was a certain step up in class. 40s to Nottingham weren't exactly common either.
Those BR Merrymaker excursions were cheap and really excellent value for money. They would use surplus Mark 1 stock, after the summer season was over, and any spare loco with a steam heating boiler. It was usually the same loco throughout, hence the surprise of having 47054 replaced for the return journey. Await your upcoming reports on this legendary Duff!!
 

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Apologies for veering off topic, but that photo has reminded me of something I’ve wondered about a few times over the years. Why were so many class 14s preserved? 19 out of 56 for what doesn’t strike me as a particularly long-lived or notable class
I didn't realise that there were so many knocking about. Not a class that I've ever gone chasing after.
 

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Apologies for veering off topic, but that photo has reminded me of something I’ve wondered about a few times over the years. Why were so many class 14s preserved? 19 out of 56 for what doesn’t strike me as a particularly long-lived or notable class

It was mainly because they were sold almost straight into industrial service Steve. A large number of them were owned by the NCB and based in the north east at places like Ashington (which had a large internal railway system) and a load more ended up at British Steel Corby and other places (a couple were even exported).
Most of them ended up hanging on until the 1980s though when diesel preservation was getting under way and they were seen as pretty useful machines for preserved railways.

A good photo of D9525 at Ashington in 1986 here:

 

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Monday 9th November 1981

A trip to Swindon Works, which I often did between 1977-1984

47508 10:11 Derby-Cheltenham
DMU 12:30 Cheltenham-Swindon

Depressing sights of class 08, 25, 31, 40, 45/0, 46 in the scrapyard.

43009+43045 16:12 Swindon-Didcot
DMU 16:37 Didcot-Oxford
47430 17:15 Oxford-Birmingham NS
45038 18:50 Birmingham NS-Derby
 

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Wednesday 9th November 1983

Around this time, I was going to interviews for a place at University or Polytechnic from Autumn 1984. Today was probably Aston University. I took the opportunity to do some Goyle bashing.

87002 WBQ to Crewe
85037 Crewe to Birmingham NS
31414 Birmingham NS to Leicester
31401 Leicester to Nuneaton
31413 Nuneaton to Leicester
31422 Leicester to Birmingham NS

I guess a Can or two to get home.

31413 was the only required loco on the day but I never had it again.

Saturday 9th November 1985

A rare trip out in autumn 1985.

87015 Wolves to Birmingham Intl, 1A17 06.25 Chester to Euston
50002 Birmingham Intl to Birmingham NS, 1E?? 06.50 Paddington to Leeds/Hull
85035 Birmingham NS to Coventry, 1A?? 06.00 Holyhead to Euston
47484 IKB, in green livery, Coventry to Birmingham NS, 1M?? 06.33 Poole to Manchester Picc
87002 (after having it in 1983 too) Birmingham NS to Coventry, 1O?? 09.58 Manchester Picc to Brighton
47408 Coventry to Birmingham Intl, 1M?? 08.55 Brighton to Manchester Picc
86238 Birmingham Intl to Coventry, 1A41 11.37 Shrewsbury to Euston
47628 Coventry to Birmingham NS, 1E63 09.40 Poole to Newcastle
87002 (again) Birmingham NS to Wolves, 1S71 14.06 Birmingham to Glasgow
87012 Wolverhampton to Coventry, 1A?? 13.37 Shrewsbury to Euston
86215 Coventry to Wolves, 1G?? 14.40 Euston to Wolves

Bit of a mixed day. Hoover the obvious highlight, if only a Ned leap. Still, the whole day only cost me £1.50 for a day tripper.

I only had 87002 once more after this date. I could still yet have it again.
 

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Wednesday 9th November 1983

Around this time, I was going to interviews for a place at University or Polytechnic from Autumn 1984. Today was probably Aston University. I took the opportunity to do some Goyle bashing.

87002 WBQ to Crewe
85037 Crewe to Birmingham NS
31414 Birmingham NS to Leicester
31401 Leicester to Nuneaton
31413 Nuneaton to Leicester
31422 Leicester to Birmingham NS

I guess a Can or two to get home.

31413 was the only required loco on the day but I never had it again.

Saturday 9th November 1985

A rare trip out in autumn 1985.

87015 Wolves to Birmingham Intl, 1A17 06.25 Chester to Euston
50002 Birmingham Intl to Birmingham NS, 1E?? 06.50 Paddington to Leeds/Hull
85035 Birmingham NS to Coventry, 1A?? 06.00 Holyhead to Euston
47484 IKB, in green livery, Coventry to Birmingham NS, 1M?? 06.33 Poole to Manchester Picc
87002 (after having it in 1983 too) Birmingham NS to Coventry, 1O?? 09.58 Manchester Picc to Brighton
47408 Coventry to Birmingham Intl, 1M?? 08.55 Brighton to Manchester Picc
86238 Birmingham Intl to Coventry, 1A41 11.37 Shrewsbury to Euston
47628 Coventry to Birmingham NS, 1E63 09.40 Poole to Newcastle
87002 (again) Birmingham NS to Wolves, 1S71 14.06 Birmingham to Glasgow
87012 Wolverhampton to Coventry, 1A?? 13.37 Shrewsbury to Euston
86215 Coventry to Wolves, 1G?? 14.40 Euston to Wolves

Bit of a mixed day. Hoover the obvious highlight, if only a Ned leap. Still, the whole day only cost me £1.50 for a day tripper.

I only had 87002 once more after this date. I could still yet have it again.

Two of the four green 47s in a day…
 

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Friday 09/11/84
DMU 1645 Glasgow Central – Kilmarnock
37253 1719 Kilmarnock – Glasgow Central
This was the 1045 Fridays Only Euston – Glasgow Central, and was normally a solid ETH 47, so Carlisle must have been really short of power to turn out an NB 37 on this turn in November. It was load 10, with only about 60 passengers in total. This was to be my only run with 37253.

Sunday 09/11/86
87025 0005 Wigan North Western – Crewe
47534 0126 Crewe – MP36.75 (south of Shap Summit) via Sandbach, Middlewich, Northwich, Hartford Curve
My fester at Crewe was prolonged by the fact this train (2125 Bristol to Glasgow / Edinburgh) was running over an hour late. I got my head down and dossed. I awoke feeling cold, and aware of the silence around me. 47534 had suffered a complete main generator failure whilst climbing Shap, and was utterly dead. What mahoosive loco would be sent out to rescue us?
47611 0706 MP36.75 – Glasgow Central via Kilmarnock.
Not quite the big freight loco I was hoping for! I was due in work at 10:00 for a 12-hour Sunday shift. I was a bit late!
 

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9th November 1986

One of those Sundays where I dragged myself out of bed to cover the Nuneaton drags. I was staying in a hall or residence at the time, and the only people queueing for early breakfast on a Sunday were cranks and church-goers!

58044 (+87018) New St - Nuneaton 1A20
58044 (+86404) Nuneaton - New St 1F29

Then back in time for Sunday dinner.

9th November 1989

90001 New St - Carlisle

Taking the scenic (and non-HST) route back to the north east.

9th November 1991

90014 New St - Wolves
87017 Wolves - Cov
86209 Cov - New St
87008 New St - Cov
Unit back
 

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Finally I am able to post something about a journey. I lost all of my moves books years ago but this trip stands out for a few reasons. It was my first trip to Scotland, in fact it was my first trip on the ECML as far as I can recall. Secondly, it was first haulage by a Class 40. This was the trip that saw me starting to take proper notice of what was hauling us, marked in my Ian Allan books with a ‘P’ next to it. It’s arguably the point where I started to switch from spotter to basher. I was 12 years old btw, not very rock n roll going with your Mum!

ADEX from Long Eaton to Edinburgh Waverley.
DMU LE to Nottingham as part of the trip.
D68 Nottingham to Edinburgh Waverley. Mk1 stock a mixture of open and compartments. We bagged a compartment close to the front of the train.
First time I’d journeyed north from Nottingham via Alfreton & Mansfield Parkway, previously I’d gone via Derby to Chesterfield. After Chesterfield we took the Tapton Junction through to Masborough Junction. I think we also went through Normanton before arriving at York. A sprint up the ECML by passing lines at Darlington before a brief stop at Newcastle. Onwards to Waverley, arriving around 13.30 ish.

We mooched around Princes Street and the Old Town. I seem to remember being dragged in and out of a lot of shops.

When we got back into Waverley station our train was waiting. Mum got our seats sorted out whilst I went to look if D68 was still in charge. I got quite a shock when I heard the whistling noise from the front of the train. At the front was 40053. And I remember it double heading with D68. Sixbellsjunction website records it as 40053 as far as York on its own. The 40 was definitely detached at York. So it’s a bit of a mystery regarding D68’s involvement or not. I know I spent a lot of the return journey in the vestibule ends at the front of the train.

I also have memories of some older lads on the train letting off fireworks as we approached Newcastle. Bangers being thrown from the train as we went through Manors, again over some of the bridges on the approach to Central Station (Dean Street perhaps? as it was a long way down). There might have been a rocket or two launched as well.

40053 was detached at York. I have it in my memory as D68 all the way back to Nottingham on a reversal of the outward route. Sixbellsjunction has it with 46042 from York to Nottingham.

DMU Nottingham back to Long Eaton probably a little after midnight

As a footnote: this adex ran every year around Guy Fawkes time. I went on it again in 76,77 and 78. Each time with a Class 45 in charge. On each occasion we witnessed fireworks on the approach to Newcastle. I’ve no idea if it was the same group responsible.
 

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