Bus Map North Wales

[Surreytraveller]

Has anyone got any idea where I can download a bus map for North Wales? Arriva's website is pretty useless, as is Traveline and Transport for Wales.
It seems increasingly difficult as the years go on to get information about bus services

 

[Krokodil]

No, but it would be a useful thing to have. The only maps I've ever seen are the ones for TrawsCymru and Sherpa Yr Wyddfa.

 

[Surreytraveller]

You seem to need to know your bus route to obtain information, but you cannot find that out without a map

 

[Busaholic]

You seem to need to know your bus route to obtain information, but you cannot find that out without a map

Catch 22 (that's not advice to just go for a bus with that route number, by the way.)

 

[asb]

Arriva's site does have some maps, but you have to be in their page for a particular town to find it. Try googling Arriva Holyhead to find their map of Anglesey, and Arriva Bangor for their Gwynedd one. Doesn't help much with the independents though.

 

[DelW]

You seem to need to know your bus route to obtain information, but you cannot find that out without a map

Google Maps can be a starting point. Go to the start or end point of your intended journey, enlarge it until you can see bus stops, then click on one of them. That should bring up a list of routes (and their times) from that stop.
I wouldn't necessarily rely on it 100%, but it may tell you what routes to research.

 

[Man of Kent]

Brendan Fox's excellent busatlas.uk website covers North East Wales

http://www.busatlas.uk/busatlas24_mersey_dee_2023_01.pdf

 

[Statto]

It's a shame their's nothing anymore other than that bus atlas map & a couple of Arriva maps, as a few years ago, the North Wales councils apart from Wrexham used to publish bus maps along with good timetable books, i still have timetable books for, Anglesey, Conwy, Denbighshire, Flintshire, & Gwynedd.

 

[Surreytraveller]

Google Maps can be a starting point. Go to the start or end point of your intended journey, enlarge it until you can see bus stops, then click on one of them. That should bring up a list of routes (and their times) from that stop.
I wouldn't necessarily rely on it 100%, but it may tell you what routes to research.

Trouble with Google Maps is you have to be lucky and click on a bus stop that gives you a bus route to do some research with!

Brendan Fox's excellent busatlas.uk website covers North East Wales

http://www.busatlas.uk/busatlas24_mersey_dee_2023_01.pdf

That's pretty good! Covers the area I'm interested in too. Just a shame that we have to rely on an individual to provide information rather than the operators or councils

 

[jupiter]

That’s a great resource, thanks. Wish I’d known about busatlas sooner!

 

[burns20]

Lloyds Coaches of Machynlleth have Network Maps including other operators

Aberystwyth Area

Eryri /Snowdonia Area

North & Mid Wales Area

www.lloydscoaches.com/bus-timetables

 

[Llandudno]

It’s hard to believe that an area bursting with so many tourists in the summer that there are no network public transport maps either in leaflet form or online.

Is it any wonder that the A55 and all the car parks in the tourist hot spots are so busy?

 

[markymark2000]

It’s hard to believe that an area bursting with so many tourists in the summer that there are no network public transport maps either in leaflet form or online.

Is it any wonder that the A55 and all the car parks in the tourist hot spots are so busy?

Sadly all of the councils make a lot of money from car parking fees. Why make maps (which will cost them money) to help people travel by bus (which will lose them car parking revenue)?

It's been known for far too long that most Welsh councils have the wrong policies in place but no one will challenge it. Sadly Wales votes for a colour and doesnt vote based off performance. hence we keep ending up with the same performing monkeys.

 

[Andyh82]

It's a shame their's nothing anymore other than that bus atlas map & a couple of Arriva maps, as a few years ago, the North Wales councils apart from Wrexham used to publish bus maps along with good timetable books, i still have timetable books for, Anglesey, Conwy, Denbighshire, Flintshire, & Gwynedd.

Gwynedd stopped a few years before COVID which was controversial at the time, but now everyone else has joined in and stopped, as have Arriva

I’m guessing if you turn up at the tourist information centre in Rhyl or Llandudno or anywhere else, there will be absolutely no public transport information in printed form at all

 

[markymark2000]

Gwynedd stopped a few years before COVID which was controversial at the time, but now everyone else has joined in and stopped, as have Arriva

Arriva has some maps.

You have to go into the region, then use the drop down to select 'bus travel in [town]'. Scroll down and it's under zone maps.

Bangor/Holyhead map: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/wales/bus-travel-in-holyhead

Chester map:

Arriva Bus

www.arrivabus.co.uk

Wrexham map:

Arriva Bus

www.arrivabus.co.uk

I’m guessing if you turn up at the tourist information centre in Rhyl or Llandudno or anywhere else, there will be absolutely no public transport information in printed form at all

They will probably ask you what a bus is.

 

[Krokodil]

Sadly all of the councils make a lot of money from car parking fees.

They also subsidise park and rides. The more they get used, the less subsidy required.

Gwalia Garage make a few bob towing away illegally (and dangerously) parked cars on the Ogwen Pass.

 

[markymark2000]

They also subsidise park and rides. The more they get used, the less subsidy required.

Gwalia Garage make a few bob towing away illegally (and dangerously) parked cars on the Ogwen Pass.

North Wales has only 1 park and ride scheme though and that is Pen-Y-Pass. Park and rides also require subsidy as you need to pay for the ride and often parking is cheaper. Instead, they can have a structure with limited costs, in the centre. Charge fair fees and it's mostly profit. Park and ride is quite far from profitable.

 

[Krokodil]

North Wales has no park and ride schemes though.

Yes it does, there are "parcio a teithio" car parks in Nant Peris and Bethesda intended to stop people parking dangerously/illegally in the National Park.

 

[markymark2000]

Yes it does, there are "parcio a teithio" car parks in Nant Peris and Bethesda intended to stop people parking dangerously/illegally in the National Park.

Sorry, there's 1 official one in Nant Peris. Bethedsa doesn't seem to be an official park and ride.