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Sheepy1209

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Interesting debates and surprisingly not as clear-cut as I expected. My original post was because I was thinking through my options and this was a 'what-if' - tbh I don't think I'd ever have seriously considered taking a petrol can on board (they're only a fiver, I would have just left it there).

What I don't get is - thirty years ago I worked in a filling station, and was told in no uncertain terms not to allow drivers to fill cans bigger than the 5L maximum (plastic cans were available then). Yet in this latest panic I saw a driver of a 4x4 fill two 20L jerry cans in full view of the staff; and yes, it was petrol not diesel.


To finish the original post - I'm doing the trip this week, no strike, no can :)
 

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Interesting debates and surprisingly not as clear-cut as I expected. My original post was because I was thinking through my options and this was a 'what-if' - tbh I don't think I'd ever have seriously considered taking a petrol can on board (they're only a fiver, I would have just left it there).

What I don't get is - thirty years ago I worked in a filling station, and was told in no uncertain terms not to allow drivers to fill cans bigger than the 5L maximum (plastic cans were available then). Yet in this latest panic I saw a driver of a 4x4 fill two 20L jerry cans in full view of the staff; and yes, it was petrol not diesel.


To finish the original post - I'm doing the trip this week, no strike, no can :)

10litre metal are legal too.

The 5l plastic / 10l metal (aka mini jerry can) is the limit for domestic purposes.

The 20 litres jerry cans could be legal if the person is a commercial user and has sorted it all out with the local fire officer (they could be allowed to store upto 333L not the just 2 containers continuously mentioned on the news).
 

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Unfortunately it was the Public service British railways that banned the carriage of motor cycles on the grounds of safety before privatisation.

Wonder what year ban came into force I remember taking my motorbike on old DMU to Lincoln in winter of 1980/1981.
 

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Wonder what year ban came into force I remember taking my motorbike on old DMU to Lincoln in winter of 1980/1981.
In 1980 Condition 3.7.7 permitted that
Motor-cycles and similar vehicles will only be accepted for carriage if the quantity of petrol or oil remaining in the tank of the vehicle does not exceed one quart. The flow of petrol to the carburetter must be stopped, all presure must be released from the tank and the vehicle must be free from leakage of petrol.


[As an aside, this was the same Condition which allowed Season Tickets to be issued for prams, which prohibited animals from sleeping cars or restaurant cars, and which permitted cats, dogs and 'other small and inoffensive animals or birds' to be carried in passenger accomodation, but that greyhounds and Police dogs must only be carried in the Guard's van.]
 
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Holly

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In 1980 Condition 3.7.7 permitted that
Motor-cycles and similar vehicles will only be accepted for carriage if the quantity of petrol or oil remaining in the tank of the vehicle does not exceed one quart. The flow of petrol to the carburettor must be stopped, all pressure must be released from the tank and the vehicle must be free from leakage of petrol.
As an aside, this was the same Condition which allowed Season Tickets to be issued for prams, which prohibited animals from sleeping cars or restaurant cars, and which permitted cats, dogs and 'other small and inoffensive animals or birds' to be carried in passenger accommodation, but that greyhounds and Police dogs must only be carried in the Guard's van.
Yes, I recall now that the ticket for a motorcycle was the same as the ticket for a dog. (Might have been valid for some other things too, prams?).

Interesting that a quart of petrol was allowed. As I recall it, in 1972, the railworkers at Euston insisted that the tank was completely drained before loading. This meant it was then necessary to push the bike to the nearest petrol station at Crewe.
So does anyone know what year the motorcycle service ended?
 
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