Unneeded with the reduced timetable and stored until further notice, I believe.
As I understand it, thought is being given to reducing potential exposure (and therefore risk) to crew - therefore a 158 may be preferable to use over a 170 given the location of door panels.You would think either older traction would be stored first or perhaps refurbishments might be able to happen (subject to social distancing of course)
As I understand it, thought is being given to reducing potential exposure (and therefore risk) to crew - therefore a 158 may be preferable to use over a 170 given the location of door panels.
Not on Northern!Class 170s can be controlled from the cab as far as I know and I'm sure I have seen this in action too.
Not on Northern!
Class 170s can be controlled from the cab as far as I know and I'm sure I have seen this in action too.
All 170s can operated from the back cab by guards. What if the train is full and standing?
Sorry, yes it's technically possible to operate the doors from the cab, but strictly prohibited as a method of working at Northern.Northern wont allow operation from the back cab due to the larger gap from the cab to the platform and the risk of falling between the train and platform. It was never included in training and has been dismissed even in the current climate
Bizarre. Scotrail guards have worked these units from the rear cab if the train is full and standing for the last 20 years. No one fell out.
Sorry, yes it's technically possible to operate the doors from the cab, but strictly prohibited as a method of working at Northern.
Indeed.Which imo is absolute nonsense from the company. The drop down window is of great benefit when leaving platforms as you can see properly instead of being stuck at a saloon door.
Northern wont allow operation from the back cab due to the larger gap from the cab to the platform and the risk of falling between the train and platform. It was never included in training and has been dismissed even in the current climate
Which imo is absolute nonsense from the company. The drop down window is of great benefit when leaving platforms as you can see properly instead of being stuck at a saloon door.
Yes they did seal up the panels in the saloons on GWR 150s.that is absolutely crazy, in reflection it actually makes me grateful my employer doesn’t have any absurd policies, and allows It’s guards to operate the trains within reason, allowing us professional freedom to get the job done. Didn’t they (northern) also seal up guards panels in saloons on 150 that GWR had installed? Again, why?!
Yeah they were sealed up as they were non standard to other DKS on other northern trains and would have required certain train crews to be trained on how to operate themYes they did seal up the panels in the saloons on GWR 150s.
Don't ask me why though.
Storing stock on the KWVR seems like a sensible plan to me. Northern get storage close to a key route with easy foot, rail and road access and the KWVR will be patrolling daily for their own security and presumably get a bit of income for their trouble. Apparently there's no more space at Keighley station at all!
I'd be worried about storing stock even on the existing Headshunt (or whatever it's official title is) beyond Low Mill Lane bridge as it would be potentially within stone-throwing distance of footpaths/back lanesThey're is plenty of space if you head far enough towards the old GN Junction where the line to Halifax once diverged only 'no-more track'. Its a tad bit overgrown at the moment but could be made into a few sidings with an adequate fence around it.