Class 317 withdrawals.

[317362]

Is 501 originally 301 and therefore the first MK3 body shell EMU built?

 

[Jturner98]

Is 501 originally 301 and therefore the first MK3 body shell EMU built?

No I don’t think so, also I think 501 is not in its original formation either

 

[Bikeman78]

Is 501 originally 301 and therefore the first MK3 body shell EMU built?

Yes it was 317301. It was misformed with a vehicle from 317325 for most of its life. The two units were rammed at Cricklewood. 317325 took 77000 from 317301 and returned to service. 77024 from 317325 was repaired and went into 317301. 77048 of 317301 was written off and a replacement constructed.

 

[reddragon]

Is 501 originally 301 and therefore the first MK3 body shell EMU built?

Class 210 pre-dates this

 

[fgwrich]

Eastleigh this time though, usually it's Newport. This could mean one of two things: scrap, as Raxstar are now done with the 313s, or further use such as conversion to barrier vehicles, as per the ex 508 carriages done at Eastleigh a few years back.

Scrap. As confirmed by Arlington.

 

[TheHSRailFan]

Do we know if 501 is to be scrapped at a later date or not?

 

[Graham H]

Scrap. As confirmed by Arlington.

317506 has been 'component recovered' and is now being scrapped. From yesterdays bridge observation 77053 already chopped, 71582 is at the scrap area, 62666 (the devils coach !) and 77005 down by the little shed. I suspect 71582 will be dealt with today, the other two may still be around over the weekend

 

[The_Train]

Is that something that is ongoing at the moment @Graham H or something that happened in the past, regarding 506?

Thanks

 

[bspahh]

The Arlington Facebook page is https://www.facebook.com/ArlingtonFleet
This is the discussion of 317506:

The scrap line won't be empty for long! 317506 has arrived for component recovery and disposal.
Please note; NONE OF THESE VEHICLES ARE FOR SALE

https://www.facebook.com/ArlingtonFleet/posts/816896037104401

You can get the works plate from a 317 at the Arlington eBay shop

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[Snow1964]

Class 210 pre-dates this

Wasn't that a DEMU rather than an EMU

Although I thought some vehicles got used as reused in 455s, so maybe still going

 

[Graham H]

Is that something that is ongoing at the moment @Graham H or something that happened in the past, regarding 506?

Thanks

Its going on right now. I could see the unit from the bridge yesterday

 

[The_Train]

Its going on right now. I could see the unit from the bridge yesterday

Thanks Graham

 

[Graham H]

The Arlington Facebook page is https://www.facebook.com/ArlingtonFleet
This is the discussion of 317506:


https://www.facebook.com/ArlingtonFleet/posts/816896037104401

You can get the works plate from a 317 at the Arlington eBay shop

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Didnt realise they had worksplates. Where do they fit them as the sides curve down at the bottom so there doesnt seem to be any traditional chassis to bolt them to

 

[Sun Chariot]

Is 501 originally 301 and therefore the first MK3 body shell EMU built?

Do the PEP bodies count? Original 2PEP and 4PEPs. Or, 1976's class 313s. I know those were aluminium bodies, rather than steel bodies of Mk3s / 317s / 455s / etc.

 

[DustyBin]

Do the PEP bodies count? Original 2PEP and 4PEPs. Or, 1976's class 313s. I know those were aluminium bodies, rather than steel bodies of Mk3s / 317s / 455s / etc.

They’re not MK3 based so surely not?

 

[Sun Chariot]

They’re not MK3 based so surely not?

Similar construction method to the steel bodied units and Mk3 stock, though?

I find the phrase "Mk3 body / build" a little confusing - other than 5WES 442 stock, I don't personally see similarities with Mk3 coaches and the other described classes.

 

[Mordac]

Similar construction method to the steel bodied units and Mk3 stock, though?

I find the phrase "Mk3 body / build" a little confusing - other than 5WES 442 stock, I don't personally see similarities with Mk3 coaches and the other described classes.

They're aluminium!

 

[Sun Chariot]

They're aluminium!

Are you sure? I'm pretty certain they're all steel builds

 

[St. Paddy]

Are you sure? I'm pretty certain they're all steel builds

Judging by the amount of rust, I’d say you’re spot on

 

[DustyBin]

Similar construction method to the steel bodied units and Mk3 stock, though?

The body material and profile is a pretty fundamental difference though!

I find the phrase "Mk3 body / build" a little confusing - other than 5WES 442 stock, I don't personally see similarities with Mk3 coaches and the other described classes.

I actually get where you’re coming from here. Look at the roof and body profile though and you’ll see the similarities. The windows and doors on a say a Class 150 are obviously completely different to those on an HST coach, but they’re only windows and doors; underneath they’re the same (or very similar).

Just to confuse matters further, the Class 156 isn’t MK3 based, despite appearances!

 

[Richard Scott]

The body material and profile is a pretty fundamental difference though!



I actually get where you’re coming from here. Look at the roof and body profile though and you’ll see the similarities. The windows and doors on a say a Class 150 are obviously completely different to those on an HST coach, but they’re only windows and doors; underneath they’re the same (or very similar).

Just to confuse matters further, the Class 156 isn’t MK3 based, despite appearances!

Know it's off topic but 175s and 180s bear more than passing resemblance to a mk3, is that just coincidental?

 

[Mordac]

Are you sure? I'm pretty certain they're all steel builds

I mean the PEPs.

 

[Sun Chariot]

I mean the PEPs.

Yes, absolutely, that matches my post 1304.

 

[DustyBin]

Know it's off topic but 175s and 180s bear more than passing resemblance to a mk3, is that just coincidental?

I’ve no idea, but I certainly know what you mean!

 

[43096]

Know it's off topic but 175s and 180s bear more than passing resemblance to a mk3, is that just coincidental?

More in common with 156s and Mark 4s.

 

[Richard Scott]

More in common with 156s and Mark 4s.

Ok, thanks.

 

[The_Train]

Does anybody know if 317506 has been disposed of at Eastleigh please?

 

[Ciderking]

Yes . all gone apart from a few pieces on EBAY.

 

[The_Train]

Yes . all gone apart from a few pieces on EBAY.

Cheers

 

[Jamesrob637]

Six more of these to go then