I find it more suspicious about the extra stages of testing that keep getting added in. Where did Systems Integration Dynamic Testing come from?
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...and again tonight - just left Old Oak Depot. There is also a test train out this evening on shuttle trips (5Z07-5Z12) between West Ealing Loop and Heathrow Terminal 4.
Presumably 5Z61-5Z68 are a precursor to restoring 9-car operation on Reading services.
Yes its running Wed-Fri this week. I would agree with your presumption.
Could go either way. Either it's obfuscation of another upcoming delay, or it means something like "Prototype Development" and "Train Running".
Versions for Trial Running (in the core).
Yes, although a unit was moved from Ilford to Old Oak Depot today so need a report of which one to update the lists below.
This morning, before this move, I reckon the lists were:
7-car units working out of Old Oak Depot (12)
345006/07/13/40/44/47/49/51/52/57/63/64
7-car units working out of Ilford (18)
345003/05/08/09/10/11/12/14/15/16/17/20/22/29/38/39/42/56
9-car units working out of Old Oak Depot - used on Heathrow / Hayes services since 29 July (13)
345004/30/34/35/43/55/59/61/62/65/66/68/70
9-car units at Old Oak Depot, seemingly spare until Reading workings resume (8)
345021/27/28/37/53/54/58/60
The rest - all 9-car, yet to carry passengers (19)
345001/19 Old Dalby
345002/23/26 Old Oak Depot
345018 Ilford
345045/46/48 Worksop
345024/25/31/32/33/36/41/50/67/69 Tunnel units
The 13 units listed as going to Heathrow / Hayes are the units reported to have worked since 29 July although some of these have been used for mainline testing as well, notably 345035 to Heathrow and 345070 to Reading last week. None of the 8 units noted as spare at Old Oak are reported to have worked since 11 June.
Any reports of 345002, 345023 or 345026 working would be welcome. It would also be interesting to know whether any units are stabled at Plumstead.
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Just seen unit 20 being delivered to Old Oak as 565M
Real TD is 5Q73
Thanks, 345029 appears to have been yesterday's transfer.
...then came back to Hayes and Harlington to try to work the 1218 to Paddington. It had another problem (the recurrence of the same one?) and went empty to Old Oak Depot to be replaced by another unit for the 1348 from Paddington to Hayes.
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31 & 36 have been at Plumstead all week. 31, 36, 50, & 67 will be stabled there at the end of this current test window.
61 was same issues both times - the trip to West Ealing Loop (there wasn’t any room in our sidings after West Ealing, not that I’m sure we can even have a 345 in there) was just to clear the bay platform at Hayes for the other shuttle, the train supposedly being “fixed”
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345s have been scheduled to enter West Ealing Number 1 loop for at least the past year on training / test runs. Loop 1 is generally available to all traction but 2 and 3 are GWRs stabling sidings
Yeah, I thought that’s what I inferred?
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I didn’t fully understand your initial post. Are you saying the 345 was on loop 2 or 3? That would be unusual. Loop 1 is not unusual.
It went onto loop 1
We had a 12 car on loop 3 in West Ealing and an 8 car + space at London end for the HEX driver trainer on loop 2
I’m not even sure the 345s are route cleared in/out of “our” bit of West Ealing.
paulravuslante
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Oh I see what you mean. Even the notes I have here on it don’t seem particularly clear on the matter... no doubt we’ll find out one day....
Three 9-car Class 345 diagrams to Heathrow from today. However, it has got off to an inauspicious start with 5T03 0423 Old Oak Depot to London Paddington running 38 minutes late from Old Oak Depot and 9T03 0502 London Paddington to Heathrow Airport Terminal 5 seemingly then running non stop to Heathrow Central.
According to Iris Tiger, at least one of the Hayes & Harlington shuttle diagrams appears to be running with a 7-car unit today, perhaps explaining the two transfers from Ilford last week. Reading services remain 7-car as well.
According to Iris Tiger, at least one of the Hayes & Harlington shuttle diagrams appears to be running with a 7-car unit today, perhaps explaining the two transfers from Ilford last week. Reading services remain 7-car as well.
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This IRSE London and South East section video includes lectures by Tom Godrey of Bombardier (begins 0:00) and Rory Mitchell of Crossrail (begins 33:26) followed by a Q&A session (begins 48:36)
In case anyone is interested the first part of this video includes a detailed description of how the signalling is implemented in class 345 trains.
The second part of the presentation covers the Crossrail signalling infrastructure.
vimeo.com
In case anyone is interested the first part of this video includes a detailed description of how the signalling is implemented in class 345 trains.
The second part of the presentation covers the Crossrail signalling infrastructure.
L&SE Crossrail Signalling Presentations
Tom Godrey of Bombardier and Rory Mitchell of Crossrail present lectures on Crossrail Signalling & Crossrail Signalling Interfaces
vimeo.com
reddragon
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The Paddington to H&H service is running to P5 at West Drayton today, empty from H&H. Currently a 7-car unit sat there!
Any ideas?
RTT mentions a fire.
Any ideas?
RTT mentions a fire.
Set of points ended up fire damaged in a possession overnight - restricts (but doesn’t prevent) access to the bay platform at Hayes. From a performance perspective turning the sets at West Drayton rather than Hayes was seen as the least-worst option.
Yes, but they have been operating one unit on a 90-minute cycle rather than two on a 60-minute cycle so only one-third of the normal service is running which is a bit odd. (I appreciate this is to handle the extended dwell time at West Drayton but still).
Ahh that’s different from what was proposed in the early hours of this morning, which was full service turning back at West Drayton vice Hayes.
Thanks for posting - very interesting!
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On Wednesday I went to Heathrow on a 9 car 345, station staff were most displeased to see my camera. Fortunately I had managed to film something before they stopped me.
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Heathrow Airport is private property and there are notices strictly prohibiting photography without permission on all platforms.
bluegoblin7
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The notices do not reflect current HAL policy and are nearly a decade out of date; photography is permitted on all platforms at Heathrow, although the usual common sense guidance about not taking photographs of staff or CCTV etc. applies.
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