Class 376 refurbishment 2025/2026

[TheGuy77]

Southeastern Railway to address the issues surrounding the lack of toilets on the Class 376...


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Can't argue with that! The only question - where does the waste go?

 

[RealTrains07]

I don't consider this to be good news. It means they'll be retained long term in lieu of one big order covering the full Metro fleet, which would have been so much better in many ways.

Granted the 376s arent a young fleet but they are still considered mid life and still have alot in them. The 707s are only aroumd 7 years i think? And also very modern compared to the 365s as well.

There is zero reason for se to waste modern trains

 

[Stephen42]

Interesting. Does that suggest the 707s have a long term future on SE, but the 376s don't?

I'd chalk it up to Angel Trains having agreed to invest (unclear if partially or fully) in the provision of toilets, where as Eversholt is contributing the amount written in the lease agreement for the mid-life refresh only.

Strategically the 707s have a lot more life left, them being replaced early would be significant lost revenue for Angel and toilets were the only thing missing. It's not specified what Southeastern is providing or committing in return. The 376s have other features missing and are unlikely to be off lease with significant life remaining - assuming they aren't replaced in the current procurement any potential next one is unlikely to have trains built until mid 2030s.

 

[brad465]

The 376s have other features missing and are unlikely to be off lease with significant life remaining - assuming they aren't replaced in the current procurement any potential next one is unlikely to have trains built until mid 2030s.

Another missing feature is DOO cameras. If only the Networkers are replaced then all the platform monitors on 376 routes (basically all Metro that doesn't go out of Victoria) will still have to remain, which will be a relative waste for supporting only 36 units.

 

[Recessio]

Southeastern Railway to address the issues surrounding the lack of toilets on the Class 376...


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To be fair, that would give you more space than you get in some of the non-accessible loos on other stock...

 

[brad465]

The 376 refurbishment has got a mention in the latest RAIL edition. There's nothing in there that isn't already discussed here, although I will say the heading is rather optimistic: "Southeastern Class 376s to receive mid-life refresh and new blue livery."

 

[Qwertl]

I still haven’t seen any blue 376s yet, but there seem to be a few running around looking much cleaner and whiter than usual on the outside. Even missing the usual branding and carriage numbers, so something might be going on.

 

[vuzzeho]

I still haven’t seen any blue 376s yet, but there seem to be a few running around looking much cleaner and whiter than usual on the outside. Even missing the usual branding and carriage numbers, so something might be going on.

We won't be seeing blue 376s for a while, if ever, what with the GBR new livery and all that. Even so, I thought the refurbishment wasn't starting for a few months.

 

[Russel]

We won't be seeing blue 376s for a while, if ever, what with the GBR new livery and all that. Even so, I thought the refurbishment wasn't starting for a few months.

Wasn't it originally meant to start last year?

 

[Milo T.K]

Iirc they are applying a new anti vandal coating on part of the 376s

I still haven’t seen any blue 376s yet, but there seem to be a few running around looking much cleaner and whiter than usual on the outside. Even missing the usual branding and carriage numbers, so something might be going on.

 

[Doomotron]

Wasn't it originally meant to start last year?

It was meant to start 'in a few months'... A few months ago. Really the first refurbished ones should be entering service about now, but we've heard nothing except that the ex-Southern 377s are going to be wrapped as well.

 

[Milo T.K]

Didn't the MD or a SE rep say that materials have been ordered?

 

[dch82]

Can't argue with that! The only question - where does the waste go?

Replace it once a customer complains

 

[Doomotron]

Didn't the MD or a SE rep say that materials have been ordered?

Yes, but I don't know if that's just for the 377s or if it applies to the 376s as well.

 

[Class15]

I was on RTT earlier and noticed that the class 376 refurbishment drags have appeared on RTT for most Saturdays. It has been said elsewhere that the refurbishment will start after the June timetable change. The drag has appeared for today but will inevitably not run.

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I presume that these drags aren’t now happening?

 

[Class 466]

I presume that these drags aren’t now happening?

Given they’re being done entirely in house they were never going to happen. These drags are a hangover from the 375 refurbs and the path hasn’t been deleted out the system.

 

[brad465]

Given they’re being done entirely in house they were never going to happen. These drags are a hangover from the 375 refurbs and the path hasn’t been deleted out the system.

How long ago was that now??? Might as well leave them in for the next refurbishment

 

[FR510]

I still haven’t seen any blue 376s yet, but there seem to be a few running around looking much cleaner and whiter than usual on the outside. Even missing the usual branding and carriage numbers, so something might be going on.

That's a base coat in preparation for vinyl wrapping. It has to be left for a few weeks to go off fully before wrapping can take place apparently.

 

[Chiltern006]

So I just saw SE uploaded a video, titled “Class 376 gets a refresh”, with the thumbnail of a blue 376.

Unfortunately the video was privated soon after

 

[Milo T.K]

So I just saw SE uploaded a video, titled “Class 376 gets a refresh”, with the thumbnail of a blue 376.

Unfortunately the video was privated soon after

may be that supposed test one

 

[Class 466]

First unit has been repainted… (sorry covered up in vinyl blue). Sorry for the abysmal quality- screenshot I was sent.

 

[NSEWonderer]

First unit has been repainted… (sorry covered up in vinyl blue). Sorry for the abysmal quality- screenshot I was sent.

376033 Apparently

 

[Chiltern006]

See this link for the TikTok video of the newly repainted 376

 

[ScotGG]

Amusing. New paint alone. No air con or toilets.

 

[physics34]

Amusing. New paint alone. No air con or toilets.

Why even bother with the vinyling with the inevitable GBR coming along.. and yes, toliets at least would be very welcome.

Poxy railway.

 

[SEtrains]

Can confirm that the unit is in service today. Just seen it on arrival into Waterloo east.

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[Class 466]

Can confirm that the unit is in service today. Just seen it on arrival into Waterloo east.

Realtime Trains | 2M16 0822 London Charing Cross to Dartford | 16/04/2025

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Bizarrely 465161/901/466006 are allocated to that

 

[Class319&373]

Realtime Trains | 1D46 0934 Gravesend to London Charing Cross | 16/04/2025

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Its on this diagram, it just overtook my stopper Networker service at New Cross.

 

[Class 466]

376033 Apparently

It’s 376027

 

[SEtrains]

Realtime Trains | 1D46 0934 Gravesend to London Charing Cross | 16/04/2025

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Its on this diagram, it just overtook my stopper Networker service at New Cross.

Oh. Apologies, I was in a rush so didn’t really check much lol