norbitonflyer
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Saw the exhibition this morning but was rushing through with a train to catch. How long will it be there?
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Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway: progress updates
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N0G83
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His name (Cem Davis) is on the departure boards welcoming pax to Waterloo but is employed by Network Rail!
I made a special trip to Waterloo this afternoon hoping to see it. Sadly there was no sign, all gone. Maybe Ian's Visits suggestion of a few weeks was a bit optimistic.
701056 was hauled from Derby to Eastleigh this lunchtime.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Realtime Trains | 5Q10 0853 Derby Litchurch Lane to Eastleigh Trsmd | 20/07/2023
Real-time train running information for 5Q10 0853 departure from Derby Litchurch Lane to Eastleigh Trsmd on 20/07/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Sun Chariot
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And there was me, thinking it wouldn't run due to today's union action & rail strikes...
The_Train
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This leaves a gap in my records - has 055 not come out of Derby yet?701056 was hauled from Derby to Eastleigh this lunchtime.
Realtime Trains | 5Q10 0853 Derby Litchurch Lane to Eastleigh Trsmd | 20/07/2023
Real-time train running information for 5Q10 0853 departure from Derby Litchurch Lane to Eastleigh Trsmd on 20/07/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
Snow1964
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DfT has just published SWR Business Plan commitments for 2023-2024 which is relevant to introduction of 701s.
Sections TS03, TS04, TS05 on page 4 refer to introduction of 701s but sadly the required dates have been redacted. Section TS07 is ABDO implementation
Have also updated the franchise / management contract documents
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Sections TS03, TS04, TS05 on page 4 refer to introduction of 701s but sadly the required dates have been redacted. Section TS07 is ABDO implementation
Have also updated the franchise / management contract documents
First MTR South Western Trains Limited 2021 rail contract
Rail contract and ancillary legal documents for South Western Railway.
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py_megapixel
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Indeed.
IMO the FOI act really needs to be amended to make this sort of nonsense illegal...
K.o.R
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In the year 3023
I'll be more optimistic, it'll be in the year 2525 (If man is still alive, that is).
StewartStag
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5Q16 worksop to wembley today is 47749 dragging 701020
Nicholas Lewis
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Went past Worksop earlier and only 3 or 4 left there now so there heading SouthI keep making the mistake of clicking on this thread, somehow expecting to see some news of the 701's entry into service.
Dougal2345
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It might be preferable if the thread could be split into two - one for actual discussion and news, and the other for details of particular 701s being hauled hither and yon, as I'm sure some people are interested in both, but some just want actual news...I keep making the mistake of clicking on this thread, somehow expecting to see some news of the 701's entry into service.
Techniquest
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Not a bad shout, I'm keeping up to date with this thread but like @Cletus I keep expecting some good news and never getting it!
alf
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I saw a 20 coach 701 train in the down slow at Basingstoke this evening. The rear unit fitted properly at the back of the down platform, the front 10 car unit was way past the platform.
I was on a cross country service from Bournemouth stopping at Basingstoke on its way to Manchester.
What was this 20 car 701 train all about?.
As we left for Reading I looked back & the red lights were in the rear motorcoach so maybe this train was going on towards Winchester & maybe Eastleigh or Bournemouth West.
I was on a cross country service from Bournemouth stopping at Basingstoke on its way to Manchester.
What was this 20 car 701 train all about?.
As we left for Reading I looked back & the red lights were in the rear motorcoach so maybe this train was going on towards Winchester & maybe Eastleigh or Bournemouth West.
Invincible
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Could this relate to the 5Q50/5Q51/5Q52 test which ran all day, but did not make the full evening run, maybe as it picked up a 2nd unit? RTT does not give the train details
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Realtime Trains | 5Q52 1724 Staines Up Loop to Eastleigh Trsmd | 28/07/2023
Real-time train running information for 5Q52 1724 departure from Staines Up Loop to Eastleigh Trsmd on 28/07/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Invincible
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It could have been part of the 5Q52 test to see if one 10 car unit could rescue another 10 car unit, not enough info to confirm, but would have thought a rescue test would be done at Eastleigh rather than Basingstoke?
I would have thought those kind of tests would be booked under a signal protected possession? Just so NR could boost the traction current more then anything
AlexNL
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Wouldn't that defeat the purpose, as such rescues will have to be able to be done in regular operating conditions as well and not only in special test conditions?
I agree with what you’re saying, but the railway way is to test something like that under sterile conditions and then hope it works in real world situation to clear a failed train from the running line. I really can’t see NR allowing tests like that on a live, open railway whilst there’s customers (both passenger and freight) that could be delayed. It may well have been a failed train that was being assisted back to Eastleigh works.
Well, that sounds like an opportunity for doing a real world test of a recovery mode that had been tested in a sterile environment.
Recovering a failed unit and testing the ability to recover a unit in one fell swoop? That's quite joined up thinking
Recovering a failed unit and testing the ability to recover a unit in one fell swoop? That's quite joined up thinking
I’m afraid that’s not how it works. If it was a genuine failure and recovery then fair enough, however they wouldn’t be testing on an open railway for the sake of testing.
Invincible
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What time was this, so we can track on the real-times website. Not sure it was the 5Q52 test as it would have left Basingstoke at about 18:20 (and RTT shows it as in the down fast track), before a cross country train at about half an hour later?
StewartStag
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5Q12 Worksop to Wembley today is 47727 and 701021
Movement south is certainly picking up pace. I can conclude one of two things from this...
1. Something has happened meaning that acceptance has come a stage closer
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2. The storage contract at Worksop is coming to an end, and they have to find somewhere else to put them.
No idea which.
1. Something has happened meaning that acceptance has come a stage closer
Or
2. The storage contract at Worksop is coming to an end, and they have to find somewhere else to put them.
No idea which.