Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway: progress updates

[gazr]

I try to keep up to date with these moves at https://www.ukraillog.co.uk/fleet-data/emu/701 - although these unit moves (without internal systems) are hard work trying to keep up to date so I can't guarantee this is 100% correct. Try the link and type "Worksop" into the Search Fleet box

Edit: If anyone else checks this and spots any errors, then let me know

Just had a peek and 701/5 formations are only showing 4 carriage numbers?

 

[The_Train]

Just had a peek and 701/5 formations are only showing 4 carriage numbers?

Thanks, I will check this after work and update

 

[800001]

Can anyone confirm what 701s are at Worksop at the moment please?

001/007/008/010 501/502

 

[St. Paddy]

47727 has moved 701516 from Derby to Eastleigh today

 

[03_179]

001/007/008/010 501/502

Thank you

I try to keep up to date with these moves at https://www.ukraillog.co.uk/fleet-data/emu/701 - although these unit moves (without internal systems) are hard work trying to keep up to date so I can't guarantee this is 100% correct. Try the link and type "Worksop" into the Search Fleet box

Edit: If anyone else checks this and spots any errors, then let me know

Thanks

 

[Snow1964]

001/007/008/010 501/502

All these at Worksop are in the list not yet with Rock Rail, so presumably still owned by Alstom.

Rock Rail don't seem to have units :
001-003, 005, 007-010, 020-021, 036, 039, 053, 055-060,
501-507, 511, 513-530

(might be error with 053, also one unit seemed to have 2 charges which is confusing the list)

 

[St. Paddy]

47727 + 701517 Derby to Eastleigh on segen

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Four in Clapham Yard today:

701 014
701 017
701 037
701 042


May I suggest the nickname for these should be "Unicorns" on the grounds that their appearance in service is mythical...?

 

[deepeetw]

Four in Clapham Yard today:

701 014
701 017
701 037
701 042


May I suggest the nickname for these should be "Unicorns" on the grounds that their appearance in service is mythical...?

There has normally been a /5 or two sat around in addition to that - a good bit of Clapham Yard seems to be being given over to these unusable trains.

 

[Invincible]

5Q50/1/2 test ran today, anyone has the unit number?
Does not seem to be any other test runs? (like 5Q10 Reading or 5Q20/22 Hounslow loop)

 

[TEW]

5Q50/1/2 test ran today, anyone has the unit number?
Does not seem to be any other test runs? (like 5Q10 Reading or 5Q20/22 Hounslow loop)

I think it was 507+511. Definitely a pair of 5 cars.

 

[brownandrew15]

I think it was 507+511. Definitely a pair of 5 cars.

It was 507 and 511 - saw them passing through Egham

 

[Goldfish62]

From a private Facebook group (SWR Enthusiasts), 16th Oct saw the first runs crewed by SWR Driver Managers on 701014.

The standard Windsor stopping pattern was used, which happens to be the first services they'll appear on in service.

 

[willt156]

From a private Facebook group (SWR Enthusiasts), 16th Oct saw the first runs crewed by SWR Driver Managers on 701014.

The standard Windsor stopping pattern was used, which happens to be the first services they'll appear on in service.

The Reading, Windsor and Hounslow loop tests are also officially being classed as SWR services now (no longer GBRF) - it appears some progress is finally being made.

 

[St. Paddy]

47749 moved 701519 from Derby to Eastleigh yesterday

 

[444045]

47749 moved 701057 from Eastleigh Depot to Marchwood this morning.

 

[Carlisle]

47749 moved 701057 from Eastleigh Depot to Marchwood this morning.

Doesn’t sound too promising if they’re dragging more of them off the juice for storage.

 

[Milo T.K]

If they were to get them in service this year, how many drivers would they need to train for the first one?

 

[Sun Chariot]

47749 moved 701057 from Eastleigh Depot to Marchwood this morning.

I thought Marchwood's reception sidings looked a bit fuller this morning! I caught "City of Truro" as it returned past the former station's level crossing, starting its trek to Leicester LIP (GBRf shed).

 

[willt156]

If they were to get them in service this year, how many drivers would they need to train for the first one?

That really depends on how many days of training are required and how many drivers are needed for the daily workings of a unit. If the tests are running regularly and driver training is taking place as indicated, it is feasible that we may see a couple in service by the end of the year, although with how many problems there have been that remains unseen.

 

[Mainsideman]

That really depends on how many days of training are required and how many drivers are needed for the daily workings of a unit. If the tests are running regularly and driver training is taking place as indicated, it is feasible that we may see a couple in service by the end of the year, although with how many problems there have been that remains unseen.

Driver training is not currently taking place as far as im aware. Guard training needs to also be done which has not started either

 

[Highview]

Is there a guard on the test trains now driven by SWR Driver Managers?

 

[theironroad]

Is there a guard on the test trains now driven by SWR Driver Managers?

Very much doubt it unless Guards trainers/managers for their own training. Most SWR ECS never has a guard.

 

[jwhite9185]

515/516 out and about this morning. Heading South through Woking, then back towards London an hour or two later.

Wrapping still on the seats, but no banners across the doors from what I could see.

 

[Snow1964]

Very much doubt it unless Guards trainers/managers for their own training. Most SWR ECS never has a guard.

How long would it take to train a guard that is trained on 458 and 707.

Theres a limit to how long can show SWR suburban guard where to sit down, put bag and hide from passengers and use use a door handle (sorry labled switch which works the doors). Most of it is variation in location of what they already know from other stock. Let's be honest wasn't like guards got days and days of training when changing from mk1 coach to mk2 coach.

I assume we are talking type conversion training, not learning the complete guards role. From my experience of over 20 years commuting into Waterloo when there is problem on the train not like the guards know by rote where the isolation and override switches are and can flick them in seconds in panels without studying what is available first.

 

[RobShipway]

How long would it take to train a guard that is trained on 458 and 707.

Theres a limit to how long can show SWR suburban guard where to sit down, put bag and hide from passengers and use use a door handle (sorry labled switch which works the doors). Most of it is variation in location of what they already know from other stock. Let's be honest wasn't like guards got days and days of training when changing from mk1 coach to mk2 coach.

I assume we are talking type conversion training, not learning the complete guards role. From my experience of over 20 years commuting into Waterloo when there is problem on the train not like the guards know by rote where the isolation and override switches are and can flick them in seconds in panels without studying what is available first.

I am going to be really picky now, but you have also got the difference places where to be finding fire extinguisher, first aid kits and which windows in each carriage can be broken if required to exit the train. Depending on the depth of training, that could take a few days to make sure the guard is up to speed on passenger safety on the class 701 units as compared tow here they are located on class 458 or 707 units.

 

[pompeyfan]

Usually courses are 5 days for drivers and 2 days for guards, although I’d imagine driver course may be longer as they have to learn DOO and all the different aspects of the PTI etc

 

[St. Paddy]

47727 + 701518 currently en route from Derby to Eastleigh

 

[Invincible]

515/516 out and about this morning. Heading South through Woking, then back towards London an hour or two later.

Wrapping still on the seats, but no banners across the doors from what I could see.

5Q50/1/2 shown as running today on RTT, but does not show if same unit numbers?

 

[shakermaker_86]

If its of any interest, 701516 and 517 are currently sat in platform 6 at Waterloo this evening. Seats all covered in rock rail seat covers and all doors appear to have an "Alstom, do not board, train in testing sign".