NSEWonderer
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701034 finally seeing passengers after arriving in 2021 which is great. Its been regularly tested on prior to this.
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Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway: progress updates
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That train is now being shown as operated by 701031 and the rest of its diagram so perhaps a misallocation. Has anyone seen that working in person to confirm what unit it is/was?After so long of six units for six diagrams, 701034 has come as something of a shock
Realtime Trains | 2H93 1743 London Waterloo to Shepperton | 12/03/2025
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Class15
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The mark 1 eyeball from a friend suggested 701031!
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That is far less of a shock. So back to six units for six diagrams it is.
Peter Sarf
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Plus "fleeting entrant" 701028 doing three trips during 6-9/02/2024 unless I am confused.
From the specific thread listing those 701s that have been in action (post #1).
A heady 150 days for some of them !.
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I wasn't counting 701028 as part of the current operational passenger fleet. Its tenure was so brief and so long ago!
Peter Sarf
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Goodness knows what state 701028 is in now, has it been stored or just used for training etc ?.
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It shows up as on the Ascot - Aldershot line this evening (if the RTT allocation is correct), so not stored. But not in passenger service either.
Realtime Trains | 5T93 2159 Ascot to Aldershot | 12/03/2025
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WarrenTManager
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I looked on Gemini this morning and it didn’t show 1034 in public service. And the weblink shows 1031?After so long of six units for six diagrams, 701034 has come as something of a shock
Realtime Trains | 2H93 1743 London Waterloo to Shepperton | 12/03/2025
Real-time train running information for 2H93 1743 departure from London Waterloo to Shepperton on 12/03/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
norbitonflyer
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see posts 12546 onwards. It seems to have been an error in data entry.
OneTrackMinded
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They can't even get the charges right, truly astonishing
I don't think they are all on lease yet: Earlier in this thread it was stated that on 14.11.24, 701 001/007/008/010/059/060, 501/502/503/504/526 were still to be mortgaged, unless this has changed recently.
At 1100 today (Sunday 16.03.25) the following were in Clapham Yard:
701018, 028, 035, 042, 044, 051, 528 and 529:
It was noted that although 701528/529 were in their usual siding main line side of the cleaning shed, they have now been reversed with 528 at the London end and 529 Country end. There has either been a shunt around, or more likely a main line run turning the train.
At 1100 today (Sunday 16.03.25) the following were in Clapham Yard:
701018, 028, 035, 042, 044, 051, 528 and 529:
It was noted that although 701528/529 were in their usual siding main line side of the cleaning shed, they have now been reversed with 528 at the London end and 529 Country end. There has either been a shunt around, or more likely a main line run turning the train.
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Today's testing:
5T91 - Clapham Yard - Clapham Yard - Goes to Woking via Virginia Water, down to Farnham, reverses at Farnham depot, heads back up to Virginia Water, reverses, and goes to Guildford, reverses and heads back to the Yard via mainline.
5T91 - Clapham Yard - Clapham Yard - Goes to Woking via Virginia Water, down to Farnham, reverses at Farnham depot, heads back up to Virginia Water, reverses, and goes to Guildford, reverses and heads back to the Yard via mainline.
NSEWonderer
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701028 I believe
norbitonflyer
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Could be another false dawn, but 701046 is currently shown on RTT as operating 2U45/2U52/2U55/2U62 etc this evening, starting with the 1533 Windsor to Waterloo and 1653 return. 701037 worked the morning part of this diagram
NSEWonderer
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Interesting. Its one of the 7 units(of which includes Unit 34) that have been continously tested for passenger readiness. Its suppose to be leaving Wimbledon Park as 5U45 if true.
Can confirm it was 046, saw it go through Clapham Junction on its way to Windsor
NSEWonderer
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That is good news, leaves 6 of the remaining regular tester units(18, 25, 44, 34, 42 and 51) to come in. I'd put money on 034 being next
OneTrackMinded
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Wandsworth Council’s Passenger Committee will be attended by an SWR representative who will give an update on the 701 rollout. Watch live at 6:30pm here: https://wandsworth.public-i.tv/core/portal/webcast_interactive/963822
The update would be summarised as:
- We're behind where we said we'd be
- We think we've found a way to accelerate training
- SWR will be shortly issuing a press release apologising for the delay in rollout
- No commitment on when they will be rolled out further
NSEWonderer
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Just to confirm. 701046 joining the passenger serviceable unit list would make it unit number 8? So far the units that have had passenger service are: 701017, 701028, 701031(Night Hawk), 701036(Red Rose), 701037, 701039(Ace), 701043(175 Years) and now 701046.
Before it's mentioned, I'm aware 701028 hasn't been seen carrying a passenger for a while now, however it's fair to say that it was in a passenger serviceable state when it did. It's mostly since then been moving around the network, conducting various tests and training runs, so could always be put back into passenger runs when needed as it's not gone back into long term storage.
Before it's mentioned, I'm aware 701028 hasn't been seen carrying a passenger for a while now, however it's fair to say that it was in a passenger serviceable state when it did. It's mostly since then been moving around the network, conducting various tests and training runs, so could always be put back into passenger runs when needed as it's not gone back into long term storage.
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Nicholas Lewis
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At least some public declaration of what has been common knowledge on here for months
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Another allocation error or is this really 701034 this time?
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Realtime Trains | 2H89 0645 London Waterloo to Shepperton | 18/03/2025
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SolomonSouth
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I’m no SWR regular but I know the 701s have been very unreliable - they’ve been delayed for many years, and even now it doesn’t seem like they always turn up on the diagrams they should.
I imagine it must be annoying for both SWR themselves and the regular commuters that 455s have to be kept running beyond their time. I’ve been on a couple, and 701s are definitely an upgrade over the 455s as far as passenger comfort goes.
I imagine it must be annoying for both SWR themselves and the regular commuters that 455s have to be kept running beyond their time. I’ve been on a couple, and 701s are definitely an upgrade over the 455s as far as passenger comfort goes.
Sam 76
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034 is indeed in service.Another allocation error or is this really 701034 this time?
Realtime Trains | 2H89 0645 London Waterloo to Shepperton | 18/03/2025
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Class15
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Is the reason for the extra 701s entering service to add more diagrams, or to replace the existing ones as they need a break?
I think his answers were quite disingenuous actually - the way to accelerate training is just him spinning the absence of DOO from the course (which of course they can’t deliver, one of the reasons for the delay).
As for the point about capacity at Wandsworth (not for this thread really!) - absolutely no intent to improve the service there on the part of SWR (only way to do it would be to reintroduce the Hounslow loop all day) - can just imagine the laughs in the timetable office when he asks about the feasibility of stopping a Windsor or Reading there (which will also be full to bursting).
I travel from WIM-RAY every evening, and try to schedule my journey to be on the 18:59 to Shepperton (2H55 WAT-SHP - 18:42 from WAT). This service seems to be cancelled at least twice a week for a shortage of train crew. It seems like SWR don't have enough 701 trained crew to operate this service on a daily basis.