Class 730 LNR & WMR Delivery/test Updates

[Bletchleyite]

What’s that mean

The LNR branded 5 car units are Class 730/2.

 

[Jamesrob637]

The LNR branded 5 car units are Class 730/2.

Yep, and running not a million miles from me especially if I visit my pal in Halewood from where I can almost walk to South Parkway.

 

[778]

Yep, and running not a million miles from me especially if I visit my pal in Halewood from where I can almost walk to South Parkway.

Probably will not be in service until 2025.

 

[The_Train]

I think the above is meant to be 048 because 004 left many moons ago. Probably a typo.

I've been told by someone who sighted it that it was 004 and 045 on that move today. My last update of 004 was of it going to Loughborough in July so presumably it moved back to Derby some time after that!

I do still have 048 as being at Derby though

 

[Ladder23]

The LNR branded 5 car units are Class 730/2.

Gotcha sorry, looking back it's obvious now what you said, blame the tiredness (nights!!) cheers.

 

[The_Train]

37601 730103

Realtime Trains | 5Q98 1310 Oxley Car. M.D. to Loughborough Brush | 14/12/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Q98 1310 departure from Oxley Car. M.D. to Loughborough Brush on 14/12/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Realtime Trains | 8Q58 2300 Barton Under Needwood Rsmd to Old Dalby | 14/12/2023

Real-time train running information for 8Q58 2300 departure from Barton Under Needwood Rsmd to Old Dalby on 14/12/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Is a move to Loughborough for mod work?

 

[45076]

I've been told by someone who sighted it that it was 004 and 045 on that move today. My last update of 004 was of it going to Loughborough in July so presumably it moved back to Derby some time after that!

I do still have 048 as being at Derby though

When I last went past 048's cars were dotted about the site 2 were visible from Litchurch Lane, the other from Osmaston Road. I'll try and get over there in the next couple of days and have a look.

 

[Rhysdabeast]

I've been told by someone who sighted it that it was 004 and 045 on that move today. My last update of 004 was of it going to Loughborough in July so presumably it moved back to Derby some time after that!

I do still have 048 as being at Derby though

004 moved to Derby on 27th October as 5Q57 11:11 Loughborough Brush - Derby Litchurch Lane, it was booked to head to Oxley last week but the move was caped and that's why it subsequently moved today.

 

[The_Train]

When I last went past 048's cars were dotted about the site 2 were visible from Litchurch Lane, the other from Osmaston Road. I'll try and get over there in the next couple of days and have a look.

004 moved to Derby on 27th October as 5Q57 11:11 Loughborough Brush - Derby Litchurch Lane, it was booked to head to Oxley last week but the moved was caped and that's why it subsequently moved today.

Thanks for the info both

 

[Pdf]

Probably will not be in service until 2025.

What will make them take so much longer than the /0s?

 

[778]

What will make them take so much longer than the /0s?

Only a few have been built. Testing and driver training has not even started yet. The first 730/0 was constructed in 2020 and they have only just entered service, so 2025 seems about right.

 

[dereksingh291]

Only a few have been built. Testing and driver training has not even started yet. The first 730/0 was constructed in 2020 and they have only just entered service, so 2025 seems about right.

Would the 730/2s enter service in early 2025?

 

[wickham]

Can anyone say which 730s have been to Brush Loughborough ? A scan though these pages shows up the following:
730027 Output from Brush Works 18.04.23:
730102 Believed to be at Brush 11.05.23:
730103 To Brush Works 14.12.23:
730004 Output from Brush 27.10.23:
Are there any more and are details of movements of those quoted known?
Of course the works is not opperated by Brush anymore and has not been for a long time, but my understanding is that the place is still called "Brush Works" - just as a location name.

 

[800001]

Can anyone say which 730s have been to Brush Loughborough ? A scan though these pages shows up the following:
730027 Output from Brush Works 18.04.23:
730102 Believed to be at Brush 11.05.23:
730103 To Brush Works 14.12.23:
730004 Output from Brush 27.10.23:
Are there any more and are details of movements of those quoted known?
Of course the works is not opperated by Brush anymore and has not been for a long time, but my understanding is that the place is still called "Brush Works" - just as a location name.

730001,002, 003, 004, 007, 008, 009, 010, 011, 012, 015, 027, 102 and 103 have all been to Brush,

 

[philip simpkin]

Thanks for the info both

730048 on Derby Litchurch Lane Test Track this afternoon.

 

[superkev]

Wading through the above posts it hard to see which units are in service earning revenue. Is there a list somewhere?
As a Northern person I'd be interested as to what has to happen to release the promised much needed 323s to Northern.
Thanks
K

 

[AJDesiro]

Wading through the above posts it hard to see which units are in service earning revenue. Is there a list somewhere?
As a Northern person I'd be interested as to what has to happen to release the promised much needed 323s to Northern.
Thanks
K

They’re not planned to be introduced into the Cross City line replacing the WM 323s for around 4 or 5 months, so there’s a bit of a wait, though the first 323 has been sent up north, at the expense of more common short forms on the Cross City.

 

[pokemonsuper9]

Wading through the above posts it hard to see which units are in service earning revenue. Is there a list somewhere?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14nT4XBiztzcyNSRklmhxGC5BW2i8Ll4inXG-3ZSnUKI/pubhtml#

The "Train Database" (Despite being a spreadsheet) is a good resource for easily getting an idea of what's in service thanks to the colouring.
Also https://www.ukraillog.co.uk/fleet-data/emu/730 is worth a look at, but it's a bit harder to quickly figure out which units are in service (although you can search for them) through the traction search.

 

[The_Train]

730001,002, 003, 004, 007, 008, 009, 010, 011, 012, 015, 027, 102 and 103 have all been to Brush,

Do you know when 002 went to Loughborough please?
Also, my records indicate 003 went to Loughborough in October 2022 and I have no further record of it coming back out - is it still there?

Also https://www.ukraillog.co.uk/fleet-data/emu/730 is worth a look at, but it's a bit harder to quickly figure out which units are in service (although you can search for them) through the traction search.

If you type "Active" into the Search Fleet bar at the top, it will list all numbers that have carried passengers

In fact that search bar will allow you to search using any keywords relating to any info stored on the website - search by number, operator, livery, status etc.

Would changing "Active" to "In Service" be better as a status?
Would a little 'tips' box to explain how to use the search bars be useful?
(These questions not just aimed at @pokemonsuper9 - always open to constructive suggestions on how to improve the site and help make it more user friendly )

Probably best to respond by PM or in this thread https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/uk-rail-log-website.207004/ so as not to take this one off topic

 

[Pdf]

Only a few have been built. Testing and driver training has not even started yet. The first 730/0 was constructed in 2020 and they have only just entered service, so 2025 seems about right.

Would they need as much testing as the /0 given they are only a new subclass? I suppose they are specced quite differently.

 

[AJDesiro]

Would they need as much testing as the /0 given they are only a new subclass? I suppose they are specced quite differently.

I’d imagine type approval will be faster, though the 730/0s got theirs quite quickly. The main thing that’ll help speed up introduction will be that a large amount of traincrew will already sign the 730/0s, and so will only need a conversion course, which shouldn’t be too extensive, at least I wouldn’t have thought.

 

[778]

I’d imagine type approval will be faster, though the 730/0s got theirs quite quickly. The main thing that’ll help speed up introduction will be that a large amount of traincrew will already sign the 730/0s, and so will only need a conversion course, which shouldn’t be too extensive, at least I wouldn’t have thought.

Do you think they could be in service this year?

 

[JonathanH]

Do you think they could be in service this year?

Only 14 days left. No.

 

[778]

Only 14 days left. No.

Sorry, I meant 2024.

 

[Class455]

Has anyone got the current 730 diagrams please? Part Time Spotter doesn't seem to have them on their website anymore, either that or the link is broken.

 

[JonathanH]

Has anyone got the current 730 diagrams please?

They haven't changed from those previously posted as far as I can tell, other than being renumbered - see https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...very-test-updates.215134/page-43#post-6491986 and https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/class-319-lnr-withdrawal-date.250424/page-2#post-6414844

 

[45076]

Thanks for the info both

There is at least 6 730/2 complete sets in-between the buildings, sadly unidentifiable and three or four driving cars from other ones in the yard, one in particular is from 221. There is also a number of non driving cars from 720/710 and 701 sets visible form London Road.

 

[Peter Sarf]

There is at least 6 730/2 complete sets in-between the buildings, sadly unidentifiable and three or four driving cars from other ones in the yard, one in particular is from 221. There is also a number of non driving cars from 720/710 and 701 sets visible form London Road.

All class 710s are in London at last and also c2c has all their 720/6s. So I think any unidentifiable cars will be for 701s, 720/1s, 720/2s and 730s.

 

[45076]

All class 710s are in London at last and also c2c has all their 720/6s. So I think any unidentifiable cars will be for 701s, 720/1s, 720/2s and 730s.

I reckon you're right there Peter but at the time of writing I didn't know that all the 710's had finally left Litchurch.

 

[Peter Sarf]

I reckon you're right there Peter but at the time of writing I didn't know that all the 710's had finally left Litchurch.

Its taken so long. And I still think in a blink of an eye one of 710270 or 710374 could still get dragged by a force field back to Derby or Worksop (it has happened before) !.