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Just perusing the magic box, Might not be 100 percent accurate but hopefully gives a rough idea

001 + 017 - Euston - Milton Keynes
002 + 010 - Euston - Milton Keynes
003 - Bletchley TMD
004 - Rugby (On test)
005 - Old Dalby
006 - Soho
007 - Bletchley CS
008 - Soho
009 - Walsall - Hednesford - Soho (On test/Training)
011 + 019 - Bromsgrove - Redditch
012 + 032 - Bromsgrove - Redditch
013 - Soho
014 - Bletchley CS
015 - Walsall - Rugeley - BNS - Wolves (on test/Training)
016 - Birmingham NS - Wolverhampton
018 - Soho
020 - Soho
021 - ?
022 - Old Dalby
023 - ?
024 - ?
025 - ?
026 - ?
027 - Rugby
028 - ?
029 - ?
030 - Crewe CS
031 - ?
033 - Bletchley TMD
034 - ?
035 - ?
036 - Bletchley CS
037 - ?
038 - Bletchley TMD
039 - ?
040 - ?
041 - ?
042 - ?
043 - ?
044 + 046 - Bromsgrove - Redditch
045 - Crewe ETD
047 - Crewe CS
048 - Bletchley CS

Im guessing the trains with no location are in Long Marston?

There's no information on any of the /2 trains at all currently, 201 for example comes back as not even existing !
 
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1123 New Street to Five Ways (Bromsgrove Bound) 730044+730046
1139 Ex Five Ways to New Street 730011+730019

Quick out & back move to Five Ways whilst waiting for a train to Coventry.
 
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Geeves said:
Just perusing the magic box, Might not be 100 percent accurate but hopefully gives a rough idea

001 + 017 - Euston - Milton Keynes
002 + 010 - Euston - Milton Keynes
003 - Bletchley TMD
004 - Rugby (On test)
005 - Old Dalby
006 - Soho
007 - Bletchley CS
008 - Soho
009 - Walsall - Hednesford - Soho (On test/Training)
011 + 019 - Bromsgrove - Redditch
012 + 032 - Bromsgrove - Redditch
013 - Soho
014 - Bletchley CS
015 - Walsall - Rugeley - BNS - Wolves (on test/Training)
016 - Birmingham NS - Wolverhampton
018 - Soho
020 - Soho
021 - ?
022 - Old Dalby
023 - ?
024 - ?
025 - ?
026 - ?
027 - Rugby
028 - ?
029 - ?
030 - Crewe CS
031 - ?
033 - Bletchley TMD
034 - ?
035 - ?
036 - Bletchley CS
037 - ?
038 - Bletchley TMD
039 - ?
040 - ?
041 - ?
042 - ?
043 - ?
044 + 046 - Bromsgrove - Redditch
045 - Crewe ETD
047 - Crewe CS
048 - Bletchley CS

Im guessing the trains with no location are in Long Marston?

There's no information on any of the /2 trains at all currently, 201 for example comes back as not even existing !
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025,026,028,029,034,035,037,039,040,041 at Belmont yard
042,043 at Gascoigne
 
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Are there any set diagrams for 730’s in the Birmingham area on Saturday, 1st June? Will they be out on the Birmingham-Redditch/Bromsgrove section of the Cross City line? Thanks for any info.
 
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cambsy said:
Are there any set diagrams for 730’s in the Birmingham area on Saturday, 1st June? Will they be out on the Birmingham-Redditch/Bromsgrove section of the Cross City line? Thanks for any info.
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3 diagrams running between Birmingham - Redditch / Bromsgrove due to engineering works on the north cross city. Best to check back on the day as they seem to have changed around Abit each day this week.
 
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5Q65 1211 Derby Lit to Oxley ran today 31/05, does anyone know what was conveyed please ?
730023/24 which came down from Doncaster to Willesden TMD for "pre-service commissioning" in mid-May were coupled together in Camden sidings today with the stabled traffic units.
 
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wickham said:
5Q65 1211 Derby Lit to Oxley ran today 31/05, does anyone know what was conveyed please ?
730023/24 which came down from Doncaster to Willesden TMD for "pre-service commissioning" in mid-May were coupled together in Camden sidings today with the stabled traffic units.
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5Q65 was 730226.
5Q23 Oxley to Doncaster ran with 730214 and 730219.
 
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There's no update on Part Time Spotter today but I think there should be an extra diagram on Cross City? The 323 thread says there are 7 diagrams (5 double, 2 single) so 4 730 diagrams now?
 
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DannyMich2018 said:
There's no update on Part Time Spotter today but I think there should be an extra diagram on Cross City? The 323 thread says there are 7 diagrams (5 double, 2 single) so 4 730 diagrams now?
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I think Pert Time Spotter is sunk under the task of digesting and assimilating all the new diagrams as a result of the timetable change. Hopefully they will appear later....
 
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I was going to post the 730s on the other thread but thought it would be too many numbers!

008 + 017 - Four Oaks - Redditch
015 + 020 - Four Oaks - Redditch

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011 + 019 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
044 + 046 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove

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006 - Soho
009 - New St - Wolverhampton
012 - Soho
014 - Soho
018 - Walsall - Soho - Hednesford
047 - Soho
 
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Geeves said:
I was going to post the 730s on the other thread but thought it would be too many numbers!

008 + 017 - Four Oaks - Redditch
015 + 020 - Four Oaks - Redditch

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011 + 019 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
044 + 046 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove

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006 - Soho
009 - New St - Wolverhampton
012 - Soho
014 - Soho
018 - Walsall - Soho - Hednesford
047 - Soho
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Euston 730s
013 + 016
048 + 007
033 + 003
010 + 002
Camden 730s
023 + 024 (presumably for test/training/spare) nearest the running lines
looks like the usual 210, 211, 212 & 217 over the back.
 
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I’m looking do the full Cross City line and Wolverhampton-Walsall etc on the 730’s this Saturday, and any other routes they out on. So what’s likely be diagrams this Saturday 8th June? When are the 730/2‘s looking to start on the longer distance services?
 
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Just a tip on fares. To Redditch via Bromsgrove (backtracking to Longbridge) is an authorised route. I discovered this a few years ago in the early days of the Bromsgrove electrification so check if this still works.
cambsy said:
I’m looking do the full Cross City line and Wolverhampton-Walsall etc on the 730’s this Saturday, and any other routes they out on. So what’s likely be diagrams this Saturday 8th June? When are the 730/2‘s looking to start on the longer distance services?
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cambsy said:
When are the 730/2‘s looking to start on the longer distance services?
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December is looking like the aim currently. No training has commenced on them, though my depot will be one of the first that do sign them so will update on here when we have more reliable dates.
 
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December is looking like the aim currently. No training has commenced on them, though my depot will be one of the first that do sign them so will update on here when we have more reliable dates.
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How much retraining is actually necessary? Surely the trains should be the same? I realise that there is the difference in length but surely things like stopping distances and stopping points are the same as for a 2 x 2 car train.
 
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730021 just left Old Dalby. Currently sat in the loop at Melton Mowbray for the 37 to run around and head back west.

Realtime Trains | 5Q69 0859 Old Dalby to Soho L.M.D. | 05/06/2024

Real-time train running information for 5Q69 0859 departure from Old Dalby to Soho L.M.D. on 05/06/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk www.realtimetrains.co.uk
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Though 730021 moved from Dalby to Soho yesterday (Tuesday), I saw a picture of it being dragged through Birmingham New Street?
 
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DavidGrain said:
How much retraining is actually necessary? Surely the trains should be the same? I realise that there is the difference in length but surely things like stopping distances and stopping points are the same as for a 2 x 2 car train.
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The trains are of a different make up (vehicle wise), different top speeds, possibly different acceleration due to gearing? Differences in Human Machine Interface? Differences in Driver Machine Interface? Different software versions to the 3 car? Layout of underframes? Layout of interior?
 
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800001 said:
Though 730021 moved from Dalby to Soho yesterday (Tuesday), I saw a picture of it being dragged through Birmingham New Street?
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Pretty sure it was 021 that went past me today in Melton Mowbray. I was only a few metres away from it, although my eyesight isn't what it was. Had a quick look on Flickr and X. Looks like it was 022 that was moved yesterday
 
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sharpley said:
Pretty sure it was 021 that went past me today in Melton Mowbray. I was only a few metres away from it, although my eyesight isn't what it was. Had a quick look on Flickr and X. Looks like it was 022 that was moved yesterday
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Apologies I got it wrong, it was 022 that moved yesterday then mate replied 021 left, I took it as 021 moving.

Nothing wrong with your eye sight.
 
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DavidGrain said:
How much retraining is actually necessary? Surely the trains should be the same? I realise that there is the difference in length but surely things like stopping distances and stopping points are the same as for a 2 x 2 car train.
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They are different for all grades. They have different handling as they are 110mph rated, also equipment etc are in different locations.

Drivers will get a 2 day handling course for them. Guards likely 2 hours or a day released max.

That and my depot (guards) have not been trained on the /0s and so has zero practical handling knowledge.

*Apologies for the edit*

We've now been given a rough date of 4-5 weeks until commencement of staff training on the 730/2 varient. These will run Crewe to Rugby via Stoke.
 
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