Class 745 Stadler FLIRTs

[travelworld2]

If another four have beeb accepted for service, does that mean they can enter service immediately? Or is there another step in the process?

 

[TheEdge]

If another four have beeb accepted for service, does that mean they can enter service immediately? Or is there another step in the process?

The right diagram needs to be found, for example it has to avoid one of the few diagrams where 321s are booked to provide traction, not sure if they can go on diagrams that involve a trip to Orient Way. They do need to be prepped for their first service, simple things like stocking the entirely empty buffet (which takes a few hours) so they can't just suddenly be thrown into service one morning. Also Victoria sidings opens very soon and with those in use it becomes an awful lot easier to stable, prep and operate the 745s without having them go into Crown Point so waiting for that might be preferable.

 

[Peter Sarf]

The right diagram needs to be found, for example it has to avoid one of the few diagrams where 321s are booked to provide traction, not sure if they can go on diagrams that involve a trip to Orient Way. They do need to be prepped for their first service, simple things like stocking the entirely empty buffet (which takes a few hours) so they can't just suddenly be thrown into service one morning. Also Victoria sidings opens very soon and with those in use it becomes an awful lot easier to stable, prep and operate the 745s without having them go into Crown Point so waiting for that might be preferable.

Fingers crossed that Victoria sidings is all we are waiting for.

 

[trebor79]

The right diagram needs to be found, for example it has to avoid one of the few diagrams where 321s are booked to provide traction, not sure if they can go on diagrams that involve a trip to Orient Way. They do need to be prepped for their first service, simple things like stocking the entirely empty buffet (which takes a few hours) so they can't just suddenly be thrown into service one morning. Also Victoria sidings opens very soon and with those in use it becomes an awful lot easier to stable, prep and operate the 745s without having them go into Crown Point so waiting for that might be preferable.

Eh? By definition none of the class 90 diagrams involve 321s!
Victoria Sidings are just for stabling. As Crown Point has been rebuilt for the Stadler fleet I'd hazard a guess it's the LHCS that will stable there during the transition.
I posit it's no more complicated that substituting a 745 for a class 90 diagram.

 

[LAX54]

Fingers crossed that Victoria sidings is all we are waiting for.

Tuesday 3rd 745's we are told

 

[43 302]

Tuesday 3rd 745's we are told

Know what diagrams?

 

[TheEdge]

Eh? By definition none of the class 90 diagrams involve 321s!

More a positioning issue accounting for the 321 diagrams.

Victoria Sidings are just for stabling. As Crown Point has been rebuilt for the Stadler fleet I'd hazard a guess it's the LHCS that will stable there during the transition.

Your guess is wrong. It's FLIRTs and 720s in there only, nothing else.

I posit it's no more complicated that substituting a 745 for a class 90 diagram.

It's a matter of picking the right diagram...

 

[dk1]

002 now has all its 'Do not board I'm on test' banners removed from doors and windows.

 

[dk1]

Victoria Sidings are just for stabling. As Crown Point has been rebuilt for the Stadler fleet I'd hazard a guess it's the LHCS that will stable there during the transition.
I posit it's no more complicated that substituting a 745 for a class 90 diagram.

As The Edge states, these are for 720/745s hence no expense spared in construction and full electrification of all four roads. Use of it for LHCS would be frowned upon due to running round on the mainline and propelling in.

 

[superjohn]

Use of it for LHCS would be frowned upon due to running round on the mainline and propelling in.

I’m confused. Surely the DVT would make that unnecessary?

 

[trebor79]

As The Edge states, these are for 720/745s hence no expense spared in construction and full electrification of all four roads. Use of it for LHCS would be frowned upon due to running round on the mainline and propelling in.

Ah yes, had forgotten that detail!
Still don't believe my reference to 321 is relevant, it's not as if any of the LHCS transmogrifies into a bin for part of the day...

 

[trebor79]

I’m confused. Surely the DVT would make that unnecessary?

Is it because the driver would have to climb down onto the track to enter/leave the 90?

 

[dk1]

Is it because the driver would have to climb down onto the track to enter/leave the 90?

You could use two drivers as we do to shunt into the Low Level from the station or just the one if driving in from the DVT but these are not always in the rake of Mk3s going off lease.

 

[superjohn]

A spotless 004 has just passed through Ipswich with “Under test” banners in the doors.
This working:
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/F21521/2020-03-02/detailed

 

[TitanMike]

From my office window i saw a 745 heading towards Bounds Green around 1400.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/97468/2020-03-02/detailed

 

[fat_boy_pete]

From my office window i saw a 745 heading towards Bounds Green around 1400.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/97468/2020-03-02/detailed

Interesting. Is it being positioned to run the diagram starting with the 06:00 down tomorrow?

 

[dk1]

Interesting. Is it being positioned to run the diagram starting with the 06:00 down tomorrow?

Was told today it would be 002 or 006 on the 06:00up.

 

[dk1]

From my office window i saw a 745 heading towards Bounds Green around 1400.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/97468/2020-03-02/detailed

Wonder why a 745 would need to go to Bounds Green.

 

[fat_boy_pete]

Wonder why a 745 would need to go to Bounds Green.

Maybe double bubble? 06:00 up and down?

 

[dk1]

Maybe double bubble? 06:00 up and down?

I would be very surprised but you never know. There are photos of a ROG 37 dragging a 745 today. Would this have been what went to Bounds Green for something? GA don't stable stock there.

 

[dk1]

Mystery solved. 005 went to Bounds Green for tyre turning today & 003 is next for this. 002 will be in traffic from tomorrow all being well & 006 later in the week as both have been accepted by GA.

 

[Railperf]

Mystery solved. 005 went to Bounds Green for tyre turning today & 003 is next for this. 002 will be in traffic from tomorrow all being well & 006 later in the week as both have been accepted by GA.

I was about to ask whether it might be for tyre turning lol?

 

[Railperf]

Mystery solved. 005 went to Bounds Green for tyre turning today & 003 is next for this. 002 will be in traffic from tomorrow all being well & 006 later in the week as both have been accepted by GA.

Any indication as to which diagram?

 

[dk1]

Any indication as to which diagram?

Rumours of the 06:00 up until 18:30dn.

 

[dk1]

Rumours of the 06:00 up until 18:30dn.

Doesn't look like it's happening today.

 

[fat_boy_pete]

Doesn't look like it's happening today.

No was 90 at Colchester just now. Better luck tomorrow?

 

[dk1]

No was 90 at Colchester just now. Better luck tomorrow?

Fingers crossed unless it turns out for the 1100 or 1600.

 

[dk1]

002 is out & about. Hopefully three 745s will be in traffic from this afternoon.

 

[fat_boy_pete]

002 is out & about. Hopefully three 745s will be in traffic from this afternoon.

Has it taken up the rest of the original planned diagram or a different one then?

 

[43 302]

I just passed a 745 at Hatfield Peverel.
And I believe 002 is on 1P18, 10:00 LST to NRW