Class 86/6 locomotives

[Class15]

Any news on the Freightliner Class 86 fleet?

 

[ANTONOV 12BP]

Vast majority of the fleet still remain parked at Basford Hall. Might take a while yet to hear concrete updates regarding their fate

 

[Class15]

Vast majority of the fleet still remain parked at Bassford Hall. Might take a while yet to hear concrete updates regarding their fate

Thanks. Is 622 still at the heritage centre?

 

[ANTONOV 12BP]

Thanks. Is 622 still at the heritage centre?

I’m assuming so, 622 should be at the heritage centre unless Freightliner has plans to store it elsewhere in the site

 

[DJH1971]

Can't see these returning to service

 

[D365]

Can't see these returning to service

On what basis?

 

[DJH1971]

On what basis?

Their age

 

[physics34]

The longer they just sit there rusting away the less likely they will run again. Not hopeful.

 

[ExRes]

The longer they just sit there rusting away the less likely they will run again. Not hopeful.

If I remember rightly they were all virtually knackered and in need of major renewal work, somebody has to pay for that and, somehow, find a pool of spare parts to keep them running, I doubt 60 year old electric locos are a reasonable bet for that financial investment

 

[ac6000cw]

I doubt 60 year old electric locos are a reasonable bet for that financial investment

I'd agree with that. Much better to spend the money on something younger, I think.

 

[uww11x]

The industry is waiting on the 99's. If the 99s are successful then other companies will follow

 

[cj_1985]

Assuming the exact class 99 spec is able to be resold... rights to specifics may stay with GB/Beacon

Remember the exact class 220/221 design was held by Virgin... with other buyers having to make various alterations

 

[D365]

Assuming the exact class 99 spec is able to be resold... rights to specifics may stay with GB/Beacon

I highly doubt there's any scenario in which Stadler would be prevented from selling further Eurodual locos based on the Class 99 platform.

 

[Energy]

Assuming the exact class 99 spec is able to be resold... rights to specifics may stay with GB/Beacon

Remember the exact class 220/221 design was held by Virgin... with other buyers having to make various alterations

The class 99 looks very similar to the HVLE Stadler eurodual over in Europe with the headlights being the most noticeable difference.

I believe Virgin paid industrial designers to design the front of the pendolinos and voyagers and as such they would be paid royalties should it be reused.

The class 196s (197s), 745/755 (756) and 800/801s (802, 805, 807) have all had their front ends be reused by the manufacturer on another order for another operator.

 

[TheEdge]

Can't see these returning to service

I didn't think they ever had a future and FL had just been keeping them going until they finally got GAs 90s.

 

[DarloRich]

I didn't think they ever had a future and FL had just been keeping them going until they finally got GAs 90s.

i think they have had it. they were always nice to see roaring up and down the WCML but they are ancient now.

 

[cj_1985]

The class 99 looks very similar to the HVLE Stadler eurodual over in Europe with the headlights being the most noticeable difference.

I believe Virgin paid industrial designers to design the front of the pendolinos and voyagers and as such they would be paid royalties should it be reused.

The class 196s (197s), 745/755 (756) and 800/801s (802, 805, 807) have all had their front ends be reused by the manufacturer on another order for another operator.

Never said it'd just be the physical side that the design could be copy writen by GB/Beacon

 

[Energy]

Never said it'd just be the physical side that the design could be copy writen by GB/Beacon

Then what side are you talking about? The software one?

I'd be suprised if any of it is copy written by GBRf or Beacon. Software, design etc. would be all owned by Stadler.