Bantamzen
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Who has projected an 80% infection rate?
No-one as far as I can see. There are now 85 confirmed cases in the UK, so perhaps someone has taken 2 times two and made 80...??
Who has projected an 80% infection rate?
Who has projected an 80% infection rate?
No-one as far as I can see. There are now 85 confirmed cases in the UK, so perhaps someone has taken 2 times two and made 80...??
Who has projected an 80% infection rate?
Who has projected an 80% infection rate?
For goodness sake, are you working for the tabloid media? It is a variant of the flu virus, admittedly one that has a potential higher mortality rate amongst the most vulnerable, but nonetheless it is not so far as horrific as you want to imply.
I think the projection of 80% infected is highly likely myself.
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear...
And in other news we are about to have the worst winter in 10,000 years, the hottest summer in a million, and a cluster of moon sized asteroids are about to pound the planet.
This thread has rapidly turned into the Daily Express. Get a grip people...
I don’t see that at all - seems the discussion is quite calm and rational?
Really? Talk of 80% infection rate? This is calm and rational? Would it sound the same if blazed over the headlines of tabloid newspapers?
Really? Talk of 80% infection rate? This is calm and rational? Would it sound the same if blazed over the headlines of tabloid newspapers?
Indeed. It will go round. Most containment measures will just slow down the spread. It is in hospitals/old peoples’s homes & the like where they may make a difference. (being well into my 70s & having some conditions as well, I have more reason to be scared though).I bet the common cold gets rather near that each winter...not at the same time, but when it's "going round"...
I'm not scared of getting it but I'm pretty certain I will.
Really? Talk of 80% infection rate? This is calm and rational? Would it sound the same if blazed over the headlines of tabloid newspapers?
It's perfectly calm and rational. We're all likely to get this at some stage or other and it's going to become just another thing for which we'll want a vaccination once one is developed. While we wait for that all we can do is try to limit a potential steep increase of demand on the NHS by slowing down the spread. Common sense should prevail.
It does seem that the COVID19 infection numbers are transitioning from daily arithmetric increases to geometric increases so the impact will be felt in many areas simultaneously very soon.It's perfectly calm and rational. We're all likely to get this at some stage or other and it's going to become just another thing for which we'll want a vaccination once one is developed. While we wait for that all we can do is try to limit a potential steep increase of demand on the NHS by slowing down the spread. Common sense should prevail.
Indeed. Flu can be deadly, yet many younger people don’t even bother taking a vaccine until they get older. Time will tell if this applies here.
I bet the common cold gets rather near that each winter...not at the same time, but when it's "going round"...
I'm not scared of getting it but I'm pretty certain I will.
Just because it isn’t necessarily something we want to hear doesn’t mean it’s not calm or rational. It’s an estimate, and allegedly a worst-case one at that.
No point in getting overly worked up about it, as short of taking the precautions most of us already there’s precious little else we can do but wait and see how things pan out.
Hopefully Boris summed things up well the other day when he said something along the lines of “for most people this will amount to little more than a mild illness”.
It's perfectly calm and rational. We're all likely to get this at some stage or other and it's going to become just another thing for which we'll want a vaccination once one is developed. While we wait for that all we can do is try to limit a potential steep increase of demand on the NHS by slowing down the spread. Common sense should prevail.
you forgot the alien invasion!Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear...
And in other news we are about to have the worst winter in 10,000 years, the hottest summer in a million, and a cluster of moon sized asteroids are about to pound the planet.
This thread has rapidly turned into the Daily Express. Get a grip people...
you forgot the alien invasion!
No, it's a commercial decision to maximise box office takings. Most of the income of major films comes from the first three months after release. If the pandemic reduces cinema audiences (as a part of the general avoidance of crowded places), overall receipts for the enterprise will be less, and as a side effect, the epithets of 'greatest box office on release' and 'record gross earnings' etc., will be missing when the success of the film is recorded for history and any potential awards are considered. It would be a token respect for their potential customers' health.The new James Bond film scheduled for general release on the 2nd April has now been postponed until November. Clearly film producers are now having second thoughts about imminent releases because cinemas are potentially contagious environments!!!
It is a variant of the flu virus, admittedly one that has a potential higher mortality rate amongst the most vulnerable ...
The new James Bond film scheduled for general release on the 2nd April has now been postponed until November. Clearly film producers are now having second thoughts about imminent releases because cinemas are potentially contagious environments!!!
Ebola had beed studied during the 2014-16 outbreak and much of the research and development of immunisation products was at an advance stage. The actual treatment was introduced in 2019 following use under a 'compassionate use protocol' to expedite a protection mechanism. Ebola has a 50% death outcome, so the need for an urgent mitigation was far more pressing than for a version of influenza with an estimated 1-5% death rate. However, an immunisation development programme is running on a global scale and there are already reports of a solution working at research lab levels. That (or any other solution) will need to be put through a full programme of tests even before human guinea pigs are given it, and then there is the need to start mass production before is gets any routine distribution.I'm generally interested to know if you have a source for that as I'd quite like to read it. I would like to see some hard statistics published on the epidemiology of this virus in comparison with seasonal flu vira.
I'd almost be interested to know why a vaccine is so far away when vaccines were developed for ebola and swine flu pretty quickly - is there something in the covid-19 structure which make it hard to target ? News reporters seem to think that we are all a bit too thick to understand the reasons (or are too lazy to actually doing any research)
I find the reporting to be Power of Nightmares stuff
I'm generally interested to know if you have a source for that as I'd quite like to read it. I would like to see some hard statistics published on the epidemiology of this virus in comparison with seasonal flu vira.
I'd almost be interested to know why a vaccine is so far away when vaccines were developed for ebola and swine flu pretty quickly - is there something in the covid-19 structure which make it hard to target ? News reporters seem to think that we are all a bit too thick to understand the reasons (or are too lazy to actually doing any research)
I find the reporting to be Power of Nightmares stuff
There's no evidence to suggest that we are all likely to get it, more likely that we may come into contact with some people that have. But as you say common sense should prevail, a simple hygiene routine, and no rushing to A&E at the first sign of flu-like symptoms will go a long way to keep this in check. However a vaccine isn't going to be ready for mass distribution this year, so I wouldn't be holding out for that.