Crewe station Bay platform 10

[31160]

Hello I've noticed from RTT that Bay 10 at Crewe, has very few scheduled services booked to use it (0721 to Chester) is one but even then most are replatformed to Bay 9, last time I was there the track looked quite rusty as if it hadn't been used for a good few days, is there a signalling reason for this or is it something else?

 

[jfollows]

The points which serve platform 10 have been broken for a number of months, so the platform is out of use until the points are repaired.
See also https://www.opentraintimes.com/maps/signalling/crewe

 

[31160]

Arh righto thanks for the gen

 

[Whistler40145]

The points which serve platform 10 have been broken for a number of months, so the platform is out of use until the points are repaired.
See also https://www.opentraintimes.com/maps/signalling/crewe
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One would've thought that Network Rail would make it a priority to repair or replace the broken points

 

[The Planner]

One would've thought that Network Rail would make it a priority to repair or replace the broken points

If it was causing a decent amount of delay they probably would. Its not as though its platform 5.

 

[samrammstein]

It was regularly used for reversing 325s and light locos that had come out of the I.E.M.D on the Chester line and were heading down the WCML to Warrington. Platform 9 doesn't have a connection with the main lines like 10 does.

Though those same moves can be made using platform 6, 11, the up and down loop, the holding siding (length permitting) or platform 12 so I imagine they are in no rush to fix it. I wonder if it will be done before Crewe is remodelled in a few years time?

 

[david l]

Seem to remember seeing a posting that apparently a part/some parts had to be produced/resourced but that was last November (2022.............)

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

I remember a time when all Chester starters used P10 for some reason (it hasn't got a canopy, so not as popular with passengers as P9).
And then further back when the diamond giving access to P6 was broken for many weeks, meaning trains used P12 and sometimes ran south to Gresty Lane to reverse back through P6 for the main line/Manchester.
Needing specialist parts was the reason for the delay then, too.

 

[LowLevel]

I remember a time when all Chester starters used P10 for some reason (it hasn't got a canopy, so not as popular with passengers as P9).
And then further back when the diamond giving access to P6 was broken for many weeks, meaning trains used P12 and sometimes ran south to Gresty Lane to reverse back through P6 for the main line/Manchester.
Needing specialist parts was the reason for the delay then, too.

There have been issues on and off for years about passengers acting like lemmings getting off trains at platforms 4 and 9 at Crewe and then walking along the white line of platforms 5 and 6 with backpacks swinging over in front of trains arriving into the station. Consequently they've been trying to use platforms 2, 3 and 10 more to keep people away from the main up and down platforms at their narrower parts.

 

[sd0733]

There have been issues on and off for years about passengers acting like lemmings getting off trains at platforms 4 and 9 at Crewe and then walking along the white line of platforms 5 and 6 with backpacks swinging over in front of trains arriving into the station. Consequently they've been trying to use platforms 2, 3 and 10 more to keep people away from the main up and down platforms at their narrower parts.

Quite a lot of Chesters are now using 12 for this very reason. The arrival from Chester happens to be at about the same time as the Liverpool to Birmingham arrives into 6 from behind all the passengers walking down the platform.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Quite a lot of Chesters are now using 12 for this very reason. The arrival from Chester happens to be at about the same time as the Liverpool to Birmingham arrives into 6 from behind all the passengers walking down the platform.

Thus destroying the 10-second cross-platform change P9-P6...

 

[323235]

The railways seem to be very over zealous about where passengers can and can’t walk on platforms these days - yes we know platforms are a risk but where has this new level of woken health and safety come from?

 

[LowLevel]

The railways seem to be very over zealous about where passengers can and can’t walk on platforms these days - yes we know platforms are a risk but where has this new level of woken health and safety come from?

Drivers and other staff reporting near misses and making complaints, when there are alternatives.

Certainly I had plenty of experience of the platform 4 issue - the problem was exacerbated by the EM unit having a short turnaround so the outbound passengers were already waiting to board, causing the arrivals to walk right out to the edge of platform 5 to get around them, often oblivious to the train approaching or stood there waiting to leave while the platform staff tried to keep people out of the dispatch corridor.

 

[SCDR_WMR]

The railways seem to be very over zealous about where passengers can and can’t walk on platforms these days - yes we know platforms are a risk but where has this new level of woken health and safety come from?

With regards to platform 6, it's currently an accident waiting to happen every hour with the choice of platforms being used.

I a 9 minute slot you have the Cardiff on 5 at the same time an Avanti Man Pic on 6, the terminating tfw train going into 8, the LNWR Euston on 7, the Chester shuttle going into 9 and then the LNWR Birmingham on 6. That's all if the Edinburgh service on 11 is on time.

Its a good job there's conflicts with signals otherwise there are too many passengers in such a short period of time in such a short amount of platform (platform 6 taking the brunt).

 

[Statto]

The points which serve platform 10 have been broken for a number of months, so the platform is out of use until the points are repaired.
See also https://www.opentraintimes.com/maps/signalling/crewe

The points into P10 have been broken since around July last year, really need to be sorted P10 is a handy overflow for Chester, North Wales terminators.

does anyone know any timescale of when the points are going to be fixed, or replaced?

 

[FuzzyDuck]

P9 also seems to be currently out of use, "PASS NOGO" being displayed on the Crewe diagram.

 

[Kite159]

That won't be doing much good for round the time of night where Chester - Crewe gets 3 trains within 20 minutes.

 

[Lewisham2221]

Some Chester trains using platform 12 tonight as a result

 

[Bevan Price]

Drivers and other staff reporting near misses and making complaints, when there are alternatives.

Certainly I had plenty of experience of the platform 4 issue - the problem was exacerbated by the EM unit having a short turnaround so the outbound passengers were already waiting to board, causing the arrivals to walk right out to the edge of platform 5 to get around them, often oblivious to the train approaching or stood there waiting to leave while the platform staff tried to keep people out of the dispatch corridor.

Platform 2 is probably worse, when a busy train from the Stoke/Derby line is trying to unload passengers through a large number of passengers waiting to board the same train.

 

[Purple Train]

Platform 2 is probably worse, when a busy train from the Stoke/Derby line is trying to unload passengers through a large number of passengers waiting to board the same train.

I didn't find it perceptibly worse when I did it a few weeks ago. The EMR train came in on platform 2, running 20 minutes late inbound (so 10 late for its outbound working), and I thought the issue of getting us all off and the waiting passengers all on was quite smartly done.

I can imagine it would be a problem at P4 though.

 

[LowLevel]

Platform 2 is probably worse, when a busy train from the Stoke/Derby line is trying to unload passengers through a large number of passengers waiting to board the same train.

The local to Picc via the Airport based on the train plan being stationary in platform 1 is less problematic though.

 

[sd0733]

P9 also seems to be currently out of use, "PASS NOGO" being displayed on the Crewe diagram.

There's something with the canopy above that platform that's been flagged up as a concern so no passenger workings until that's resolved.

 

[FuzzyDuck]

Looks like the points have finally been fixed, noticed today that the "NOGO" had been removed. Checking RTT it seems that 1K12 from Chester today was the first service to use P10 for quite some time.

 

[jfollows]

Looks like the points have finally been fixed, noticed today that the "NOGO" had been removed. Checking RTT it seems that 1K12 from Chester today was the first service to use P10 for quite some time.

Thank you, that’s good to know.