I was at the WACA for an Ashes test during the 83/84 series when Terry Alderman tackled an intruder . He damaged his shoulder in the tackle and was out of action for the rest of the season.
Oops. Memory fail. It was actually 1982.
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Good to see Bairstow hold on to something.
75A
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Hmm interesting day, no wickets for Broad or Anderson, 36 byes, 12 of which were no balls.
On the plus side, Smith will run out of partners before he gets his double century and Bairstow has moved on from being a clown in the first test to a juggler in this one (the stumping).
Let's see what tomorrow brings.
On the plus side, Smith will run out of partners before he gets his double century and Bairstow has moved on from being a clown in the first test to a juggler in this one (the stumping).
Let's see what tomorrow brings.
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Reading the newspapers over the last few days concerning the balance of the English team for this test, if there was a consensus then this was it:-
A) If England were to lose this one, not only the Ashes but the series would be lost
B) If England chose four fast medium righthanded bowlers, plus Stokes and Root as their bowling attack, whereas Australia had Lyon and Starc to add to Cummins, Hazlewood and Green, then the latter would almost certainly prevail.
So the scenario above is panning out as predicted in its early stages, despite England winning the toss again and getting the opportunity to bowl under the early cloud cover. All praise to Tongue for his enthusiasm and for the excellent balls among the dross, and the ever-willing Root for having to do far more than his fair share of the side's work ('twas ever thus.)
Where was Mark Wood while all this was going on? It seems he'd interrupted the five minutes work he'd been given in the IPL for stupendous amounts of dosh to take paternity leave and now felt he had to tell his Durham colleague Stokes he didn't feel up to the job of coming into the side and playing a full part! I can only assume he must be pretty pally with Stokes, if the reports that his match fitness would be reassessed for the next test are true. 'On your bike, mate, and don't come back. Try playing a few games of actual cricket....' etc etc would be my reaction. In the meantime. Nathan Lyon plays his 100th consecutive test. No wonder the Aussies think we're a bunch of cosseted so-and-so's,
I know this will be controversial, but that's not my reason for saying it. I felt essential mistakes were being made before and during the Edgbaston test that were being covered up by the Bazball hype: it was good while it lasted, but all good things (including luck, which had been in great supply) must come to an end.
A) If England were to lose this one, not only the Ashes but the series would be lost
B) If England chose four fast medium righthanded bowlers, plus Stokes and Root as their bowling attack, whereas Australia had Lyon and Starc to add to Cummins, Hazlewood and Green, then the latter would almost certainly prevail.
So the scenario above is panning out as predicted in its early stages, despite England winning the toss again and getting the opportunity to bowl under the early cloud cover. All praise to Tongue for his enthusiasm and for the excellent balls among the dross, and the ever-willing Root for having to do far more than his fair share of the side's work ('twas ever thus.)
Where was Mark Wood while all this was going on? It seems he'd interrupted the five minutes work he'd been given in the IPL for stupendous amounts of dosh to take paternity leave and now felt he had to tell his Durham colleague Stokes he didn't feel up to the job of coming into the side and playing a full part! I can only assume he must be pretty pally with Stokes, if the reports that his match fitness would be reassessed for the next test are true. 'On your bike, mate, and don't come back. Try playing a few games of actual cricket....' etc etc would be my reaction. In the meantime. Nathan Lyon plays his 100th consecutive test. No wonder the Aussies think we're a bunch of cosseted so-and-so's,
I know this will be controversial, but that's not my reason for saying it. I felt essential mistakes were being made before and during the Edgbaston test that were being covered up by the Bazball hype: it was good while it lasted, but all good things (including luck, which had been in great supply) must come to an end.
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If England had decided earlier enough, both Woakes and Wood could have been released to play this week's CC matches, starting last Sunday and finishing today, giving them some match practice and a week to recover before the Headingley Test.
But getting ready to play red ball Test cricket by playing actual red ball cricket seems out of fashion these days...
But getting ready to play red ball Test cricket by playing actual red ball cricket seems out of fashion these days...
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Brilliant stuff from Lancashire, who bossed the game v Surrey with the notable exception of Surrey's last wicket stand. I thought anything above 250 would be a stiff chase, we set something like 204 which proved more than enough, thanks to Bailey and Williams.
Bailey must be one of the best and most consistent bowlers on the circuit that's never had a Test.
Bailey must be one of the best and most consistent bowlers on the circuit that's never had a Test.
How Woakes didn’t play this game is beyond me - given his slight extra mph, batting ability (esp in absence of Moeen), and his semi status as ”Lords specialist“. Would’ve loved to have seen him over Robinson.
I don’t rate Moeen highly as a red ball bowler so Root being main spinner was acceptable to me, only a shame he was hardly used for a good while. Sounds strange, but I really feel like Brook could be an important bowler for some tight economical bowling.
Liam Dawson has just had a match to remember, scoring 141 in his only batting innings before taking 6-40 and 6-90 (f/o). Surely a contender for the final 3 Tests as the only good spinner without a career to have ruined at 18 or 24 as per all other options.
At Headingley I’d like to see Anderson + Robinson rested for Old Trafford, with Dawson, Woakes, Broad and Wood playing. I’d love to see Sam Curran brought into the squad for the next 3 Tests, with a particular impact to be had at The Oval.
On the note of substitutions, I get the impression that England call-ups or releases from squads are allowed reasons for substitutions - in this case Potts was released from the Ashes squad for this game. I seem to remember Liam Dawson being subbed out of a County game in 2019 for his World Cup call-up, which hadn’t been expected given Joe Denly was the reserve spinner in the preliminary squad. I presume the situation was the same for James Vince and Jofra Archer, who had the same situation of being called up despite not being in the prelim squad, in for Alex Hales and David Willey.
On the subject of Daniel Bell-Drummond, I have felt sorry for him in the past. To my recollection, he was forced out of his opening position, first by England who were making Crawley an opener rather than a no.3, then by the emergence of Ben Compton in the Kent side, so it’s good to see DBD make a good score from 3.
I don’t rate Moeen highly as a red ball bowler so Root being main spinner was acceptable to me, only a shame he was hardly used for a good while. Sounds strange, but I really feel like Brook could be an important bowler for some tight economical bowling.
Liam Dawson has just had a match to remember, scoring 141 in his only batting innings before taking 6-40 and 6-90 (f/o). Surely a contender for the final 3 Tests as the only good spinner without a career to have ruined at 18 or 24 as per all other options.
At Headingley I’d like to see Anderson + Robinson rested for Old Trafford, with Dawson, Woakes, Broad and Wood playing. I’d love to see Sam Curran brought into the squad for the next 3 Tests, with a particular impact to be had at The Oval.
On the note of substitutions, I get the impression that England call-ups or releases from squads are allowed reasons for substitutions - in this case Potts was released from the Ashes squad for this game. I seem to remember Liam Dawson being subbed out of a County game in 2019 for his World Cup call-up, which hadn’t been expected given Joe Denly was the reserve spinner in the preliminary squad. I presume the situation was the same for James Vince and Jofra Archer, who had the same situation of being called up despite not being in the prelim squad, in for Alex Hales and David Willey.
On the subject of Daniel Bell-Drummond, I have felt sorry for him in the past. To my recollection, he was forced out of his opening position, first by England who were making Crawley an opener rather than a no.3, then by the emergence of Ben Compton in the Kent side, so it’s good to see DBD make a good score from 3.
He has got his timing right. he has just signed a new deal!
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/canter...-bell-drummond-following-red-hot-form-289179/
Whistler40145
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Is it time for Jimmy Anderson to retire?
Xenophon PCDGS
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The strains and stresses particular to fast bowlers must tell over the years and at the age of 40, despite keeping fit, that long time period he has played in such a role must take its toll on him.
But Rehan wasn’t released back to Leicestershire, whilst Potts was subbed into the Durham team they were playing. That’s inherently unfair
Luckily Pete Handscomb made 136* and the tail hung around with him to get Leicestershire a draw
Whistler40145
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I know batsmen usually have a longer career
Pakenhamtrain
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Steve Smith. Best since Bradman.
That's it. That's the post.
That's it. That's the post.
75A
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Can't argue with that, another Test 100. His 32nd in Test Matches
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Pakenhamtrain
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I refuse to believe Duckett is 5 foot 7.
Australian perhaps, but Sachin Tendulkar would like a word I think speaking more generally however!
Purple Train
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His statistics would be way less impressive if he'd had to face your bowling attack in his Test career
dangie
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Didn’t Steve Smith receive a ban for ball tampering? That’s cheating in my book. No matter how good he is, cheats can’t be considered the best.
75A
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Michael Atherton?
dangie
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Yes the same for him if he was ever to be considered the best.
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My head has just recovered from being banged against the wall this afternoon
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I agree on the unfairness, which makes the draw Leics achieved despite it all the more deserved, plus some help from the weather. Durham, though. have got caught up in cricket politics in the recent past and had points deducted for non-cricketing reasons, so they were perhaps evening things up a bit. Handscomb's innings was a masterclass by all accounts: I wonder whether the Aussie selectors were taking note in case of injuries to batsmen or wicket keeper.
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Sad to say that's probably the ashes gone...
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Agreed. 5-0 here we come.
I’m coming round to the idea that Bazball (ugh) isn’t the positive change that it’s held up to be. It feels more like an admission that our batsmen just aren’t good enough to bat for long periods of time, so they might as well have a slog before a good ball gets them out
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Guess we need some perspective here. We were an absolute shambles just over a year ago, spiralling down to the bottom of the league. Since then, we've hauled ourselves up to upper mid table and played some really entertaining stuff. So progress has been made. Bazball will probably keep us mid table but won't be enough to really challenge the best. Maybe that's where we really are as a team?
However...we should have bowled Australia out last test so the bowlers are just as culpable as the batmen. That attack isn't looking great really. Two ageing spearheads with the rest yet to really become a must pick.
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In non Ashes news. Former Australian Captain Allan Border has revealed he has been battling Parkinson’s disease for the last 7 years.
www.foxsports.com.au
Australian cricket legend Allan Border has Parkinson’s disease
‘He could just tell’: Aussie cricket legend Allan Border opens up on Parkinson’s diagnosis
www.foxsports.com.au
Purple Train
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I think complacency is the issue. We've been in brilliant form, so, given the relaxed attitude Messrs Stokes and McCullum are aiming to cultivate, presumably that translates into a somewhat excessive devotion to the mantra, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
If Bazball is meant to be about letting players play their natural game, there should be enough slack in it to make sure top-class batsmen don't fall for the oldest trick in the book.
If Bazball is meant to be about letting players play their natural game, there should be enough slack in it to make sure top-class batsmen don't fall for the oldest trick in the book.
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20/20 Roses fixture looks destined for an abandonment. One point each would end Yorkshire's chances (stop giggling those of us this side of the Pennines) and should all but mathematically see Lancs qualify. Disappointing for a virtual sell-out; and also ironic that Headingley (Leeds) appears to be dry as the Pennines traps that low, murky drizzle.
Earlier in the day a disappointment too for the Netherlands who, at one stage, looked like chasing down Sri Lanka's modest total easily in the World Cup qualifiers. However SL's spin and some badly judged running calls saw Netherlands fall short. Which is good news for the West Indies as they lost to Netherlands in the group stage.
Earlier in the day a disappointment too for the Netherlands who, at one stage, looked like chasing down Sri Lanka's modest total easily in the World Cup qualifiers. However SL's spin and some badly judged running calls saw Netherlands fall short. Which is good news for the West Indies as they lost to Netherlands in the group stage.