An amazing morning of Test cricket! Very happy for Shamar Joseph, he looks really promising. Somehow slightly funny to see Steve Smith stranded on 91 as his team collapse around him. Meanwhile, Tom Hartley has now recovered his Test bowling average to 28.6 which is good to see. And I’m very happy for Ollie Pope, only a shame he didn’t make 200. I’d absolutely love for England to win this from the position they were in.
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I'm listening to the cricket on the radio, but it's not a pleasant experience because the "commentators" spend their time shouting at me, without telling me what's going on. They forget that they can see the action whereas I can't. It's pretty dire, albeit slightly better than nothing.
There's a South African TV "commentator" who shouts all the time also. Richie Benaud is turning in his grave.
There's a South African TV "commentator" who shouts all the time also. Richie Benaud is turning in his grave.
Purple Train
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I stand humbled and corrected. It has been a brilliant bowling display given what happened in the first innings. Well played Tom Hartley, to come back from the first innings like that!
Amazing!
Amazing!
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Well he’s bowled England to victory…
Whistler40145
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I'm humbled too
Do think Hartley was more determined and motivated knowing that Leach has an injury?
Do think Hartley was more determined and motivated knowing that Leach has an injury?
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Wow, what a finish, and what a turn-around for England in general and Tom Hartley in particular, with 7 for 62 in India's second innings. I didn't believe it was possible until it happened!
Following Windies beating Australia, it's a while since I've enjoyed two results on the same day quite so much.
I'm looking forward to the rest of the series much more than I was after day one.
Following Windies beating Australia, it's a while since I've enjoyed two results on the same day quite so much.
I'm looking forward to the rest of the series much more than I was after day one.
Agreed, I find the Talksport commentary much too loud and excitable. Quite often, after a ball has been played, the commentators are so over-excited that I can't tell what's actually happened, e.g. was it a catch or a boundary? I tend to keep a text feed open as well, to help keep track.
Agree on the TalkSport commentary - it's appalling, far too much shouting. Roll on the summer and the return of TMS and the county cricket commentaries.
Superb by Tom Hartley this morning - other commitments meant I just heard bits on the radio - but it just goes to show that we shouldn't judge on first impressions. Was delighted this morning when I woke up to see that Ollie Pope and the tail had added another 100+ runs.
Be interesting now to see how the series progresses.
Superb by Tom Hartley this morning - other commitments meant I just heard bits on the radio - but it just goes to show that we shouldn't judge on first impressions. Was delighted this morning when I woke up to see that Ollie Pope and the tail had added another 100+ runs.
Be interesting now to see how the series progresses.
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Tom, not Alex. Alex is the better looking one
, but has now retired from international cricket.Purple Train
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Possibly, but Leach did bowl a little bit.
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Well, from being carted all over the pitch to now being called "Hitman Hartley" what a turn-around. Full marks to Stokes for keeping the faith in him, dunno who got Man Of the Match but it could either be Hartley (seven-for) or Pope (big ton) but it was Pope's innings that gave England the chance to bowl them out.
Hartley is now bound to get the rest of the series, will England's gain be Lancashire's loss this season?
Hartley is now bound to get the rest of the series, will England's gain be Lancashire's loss this season?
Xenophon PCDGS
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Nine wickets in his first proper Test Match is not a bad performance.
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What can you say? Two superb test comebacks while you're sleeping through them, and turn on the computer to see two results without knowing who's won. Check Brisbane first and realise Shamar Joseph has gone through the Aussies like a dose of salts, then, thinking India must have made short work of those runs for the game to be over, discover a miracle has happened. Cue absolute humble pie on my part. Isn't cricket, and specifically test cricket, the most amazing game possible?
If ever a 'man of the match' was made to be shared, this was it. Hartley or Pope, how do you separate them?
If ever a 'man of the match' was made to be shared, this was it. Hartley or Pope, how do you separate them?
Whistler40145
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I feel for Ollie Pope getting clean bowled on 196
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Please note the time of my posting: this humble pie is hard to stomach!
DarloRich
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a remarkable win!
I don’t.
It’s a good score and I don’t like the way people get hung up on statistics. I know that’s part of the game, but I’d be very happy if I had scored 196 for England.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Remember the old adage...."It's not over until the fat lady sings"...Please note the time of my posting: this humble pie is hard to stomach!
Whistler40145
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That was a known saying of Ian BothamRemember the old adage...."It's not over until the fat lady sings"...
Pope for me, just. If it weren't for his 196 in the second innings, we wouldn't have had the runs in the bank for Hartley to be able to get his 7'fer in India's second innings. Both sublime performances nonetheless!
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Should be a joint award, two outstanding performances.
Bashir likely to come in, but it means England will certainly play a pacer. It seems Eng had been considering a full spin attack! I wonder which pacer will play.
How about a Most Valuable and a Most Improved!
Xenophon PCDGS
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Where does the England team now stand in the most recent table of international teams?
ICC Rankings
Test: 3rd
ODI: 6th
T20I: 3rd
England very low in Test Championship table (very early stages) due to slow over rate fines in the Ashes.
Day one of the 2nd test in India done - a decent day by all accounts. Have had the second two sessions on in the background whilst working. A decent day for England having lost the toss on what is apparently a batting track. Could all hinge on how we bat - if we can avoid the errors the India batters have made and get a first innings lead, who knows what may happen. India obviously have a clear advantage bowling last. First test showed us never to discount England at the moment.
Jimmy Anderson - superb, going for 30 runs in 17 overs. 41 years old and still going. Long may that continue.
Jimmy Anderson - superb, going for 30 runs in 17 overs. 41 years old and still going. Long may that continue.
Pakenhamtrain
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The first ODI between Australia and the West Indies has been completed at the MCG infront of nearly 17,000 fans. Australia won by 8 wickets
Australia won the toss and elected to bowl first.
WI 231 off 48.4 overs.
Aus 2/232 off 38.3 overs.
Australia won the toss and elected to bowl first.
WI 231 off 48.4 overs.
Aus 2/232 off 38.3 overs.
When will Aus learn to either get fans in or spread cricket around to better sized grounds.
Pakenhamtrain
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We don't really have smaller grounds to play in. All the major cricket grounds(MCG, SCG, Gabba, Adelaide Oval, Optus Stadium) are dual use stadiums. They get used for AFL which brings in the crowds.
During this ODI and T20 series every cricket ground gets a game. Even Canberra and Hobart.
The reality is ODIs aren't popular anymore. Let alone against the Windies.
T20s are more family friendly product.
Xenophon PCDGS
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He it was who eventually dismissed the Indian double centurion opener and finished with a bowling return of 25 - 4 - 47 - 3. India all out for 396.
England 1st innings after 41 overs are 180-6.
Jasprit Bumrah like Jimmy Anderson can still get something from seam bowling on this batting track and currently has figures of 12 - 5 - 36 - 3.
UPDATE......
England went from being 114-1 to 253 all out in less than 56 overs.
Bumrah showed that top-class pace bowling on this track is still effective and had a final bowling return of 15.5 - 5 - 45 - 6.
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