MCR247
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Personally I think sometimes those screens are more of a gimmick than anything else. The main advantage seems to be to the TOC who have a new way to bombard you with extra visual ads.
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CrossCountry XC Class 170 refurbishment
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I'd imagine it's down to the fact that they have the new overhead PIS screens. Quite a lot of new fleets tend to only have one or the other, the Civity units only have the large screens, whilst the Aventra's only have the overhead ones - except for the 701/710.
Bletchleyite
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Connectional information is a good use-case for them. I've not seen much commercial advertising on them.
The ones on the 350s are still glitchy, 6 years after the first unit received them. Half the time they freeze or just aren't working at all. The older ANNAX system meanwhile is practically bombproof.
MCR247
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When done properly, but I personally would argue that it’d be useful to start showing this info before the train is already pulling into the platform (TfW the last time I was on them). And I’m not talking about commercial ads, I’m talking about TOC ads. Penalty fares, where to get the best fares, treat staff with respect, were on social media! Etc.
For me, the main use of the PIS should be to inform passengers of the destination and calling points, and not spending most of the time blank and only displaying this info once or twice between each stop at random times (22x looking at you!)
I'm quite relieved that they haven't. I always try to sit away from those screens. If I'm trying to read, it's quite distracting having a bright display flicking from one image to the next every few seconds.
Russel
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Internally, yes, externally, they are a disgrace.
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It is. Go to Switzerland to see it done properly! The Zürich S-Bahn had it over 10 years ago with real time information (all on time, obviously) for trains and buses, even the charter train I was catching was listed.
Merthyr Imp
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Has there been an improvement in legroom?
Yes, I’ve been on one, and the seats themselves are much thinner than the old Lazzerini ones, so legroom is far better (my knees don’t touch the back of the seat in front anymore!).
Photo shows a view of 170101’s interior, with a footwell visible in the bottom right corner.
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Jim the Jim
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An unusual feature is individually numbered windows - a sticker above each (on the inside) reading W01, W02 etc.
Kite159
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Not that unusual, other rolling stock have similar individually labelled windows. Helps maintenance when it comes to logging faults as it can be 'small crack on W04 on coach 'XY101'.
Oh, so that’s explains why XC haven’t bothered replacing broken windows filled with mould for a decade, they didn’t know what number to look for
WesternLancer
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I see BBC East Midlands report the first refurbished EMR 170 is out and about in service.
I wonder how this compares with the XC sets.
Is there a separate thread for them?
I wonder how this compares with the XC sets.
Is there a separate thread for them?
Jacob Porrett
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Yep.
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/emr-regional-and-connect-refurbishments.264736/page-11 Here is said thread if your interested.
WesternLancer
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Many thanks. I’ve just selected to watch that and nice to see the images posted.
Ok. Thanks