Derby Resignalling - 22 July - 7 October 2018

[Robertj21a]

I have to say that the organisation of the rail replacement buses seems excellent - just what we expect from Stagecoach.

 

[pdeaves]

Realtime Trains doesn't show a platform number for London services, so probably is in use now.

The lack of number may be because 'platform 7' is not a real (passenger) platform. Once the rest of the station reopens the 'platform 7' face will be taken out of use for public services.

 

[Mugby]

I notice that there is now a stopping service from Nottingham which terminates at Long Eaton and then returns to Nottingham.

Does anyone know which platform it uses at Long Eaton and how it crosses over to return?
Presumably it runs 'wrong line' for some distance?

 

[Freightmaster]

Does anyone know which platform it uses at Long Eaton and how it crosses over to return?
Presumably it runs 'wrong line' for some distance?

It runs all the way to/from Spondon to reverse, believe it or not!

Not sure why it can't run in passenger service??


MARK

 

[43055]

It runs all the way to/from Spondon to reverse, believe it or not!

Not sure why it can't run in passenger service??


MARK

I think it is to do with facilities at the station which is a simular reason why the buses towards crewe go to uttoxeter instead of tutbury. If your train terminated and went back but the bus had not turned up I'd rather wait at a station with facilities (staff, waiting area ect.) and not a station with just platforms and not much nearby (but that's my opinion).

 

[edwin_m]

There are service buses from Spondon into Derby if anyone was to become stranded there, but people from outside the local area might not know that.

This turnback becomes impossible after the re-signalling as they are taking the crossover out.

 

[LowLevel]

It runs all the way to/from Spondon to reverse, believe it or not!

Not sure why it can't run in passenger service??


MARK

I will take a punt and suggest it's because they're digging up the down platform at Spondon because it's got one of these lovely new signals halfway down it and they're having to reinstate part of the disused bit.

The crossover isn't a passenger move so you can't shunt and use the up platform and in any case if they do it right it can be a bit of a wait to cross back over at certain times.

 

[deltic08]

They were there!

Enough to warrant spending £millions on a new station?

 

[43055]

https://mobile.twitter.com/EMTrains/media/grid?idx=0

EMT picture of the works at the south end showing the track being taken out of platforms 3 to 6 and the removal of some of platform 6. I think platform 6 has already been renumbered 5 as well.

 

[civ-eng-jim]

Rumour has it they've unearthed a team of BR engineers still working on the APT

 

[grumpyoldman01]

Realtime Trains showing the Matlock's using 6B and nothing for the London's but NRES shows 5B for Matlock and 7 for London!

Guess, therefore, that you're right, and "old" 6 now 5

 

[Foggycorner]

Ooooh, I think heating is only designed for 94.7%...They should be able to turn it up a notch in February.

Are IBCLs really that bad?

having spent many years working on this type of points movers they are OK till something drops into the open switch side workings and buggers it up or the rail moves or it gets too cold for them to work correctly, give me a 63 machine any day

 

[vlad]

I think it is to do with facilities at the station which is a simular reason why the buses towards crewe go to uttoxeter instead of tutbury. If your train terminated and went back but the bus had not turned up I'd rather wait at a station with facilities (staff, waiting area ect.) and not a station with just platforms and not much nearby (but that's my opinion).

Trains continue on from Uttoxeter to Tutbury & Hatton in passenger service (then on to Egginton to reverse).

As for facilities, unless EMT have actually provided some at Uttoxeter for the time being I'd prefer to wait at T&H! I understand they're running buses to Uttoxeter as there's somewhere for the bus to wait and it's fairly easy to reach the A50.

 

[martinr1]

A look at a very busy day on Friday 3rd August:-

 

[martinr1]

Another interesting day on Thursday 9th August:-

 

[civ-eng-jim]

Timelapse of the Derby Platform Destruction. They don't hang about

 

[lammergeier]

Fantastic little video that Jim, thanks for posting it. I hope the camera is still in place to record the rest of the rebuilding up to reopening.

 

[grumpyoldman01]

Last time I was at Derby Midland was last Saturday, and only new platform 7 was in use; north end of new5/old 6 had been removed, the space between it an new platform 6 was a worksite - and the Network Rail DVT was marooned in its centre!

I travelled in a bus over the Pride Park bridge at about 13.30 and could see what I thought was a class 156 in new 5/old 6; I've noted one leaving it for the north in the above video.

So is new 5/old 6 in passenger use again, please?

A photo of the north end of new 5/old 6 as it was last Saturday afternoon is attached

 

[louis97]

So is new 5/old 6 in passenger use again, please?

Yes it is.

 

[Mugby]

I've walked over Mansfield Road bridge a few times and noticed protection in place on the Down Main. So with Matlock services running, are they taking possession between trains? There doesn't seem to be anything happening though.

Regarding bus operation, Arriva are using a Mercedes mini-bus at the moment which is in their livery with fleetnames. It says Rail Replacement on the destination and operates towards Burton. I've seen it several times but never seen a single passenger on it. Does anyone know it's purpose?

 

[Robertj21a]

I've walked over Mansfield Road bridge a few times and noticed protection in place on the Down Main. So with Matlock services running, are they taking possession between trains? There doesn't seem to be anything happening though.

Regarding bus operation, Arriva are using a Mercedes mini-bus at the moment which is in their livery with fleetnames. It says Rail Replacement on the destination and operates towards Burton. I've seen it several times but never seen a single passenger on it. Does anyone know it's purpose?

It runs only to Willington.

 

[martinr1]

Had another look at Derby today Friday 18th August:-

 

[louis97]

I've walked over Mansfield Road bridge a few times and noticed protection in place on the Down Main. So with Matlock services running, are they taking possession between trains? There doesn't seem to be anything happening though.

Matlock services are using the Goods lines between the station and St Mary's Junction.

 

[deltic08]

Had another look at Derby today Friday 18th August:-

That's very clever predicting what is going to happen tomorrow but what happened today the 17th?

 

[Belperpete]

The lack of number may be because 'platform 7' is not a real (passenger) platform. Once the rest of the station reopens the 'platform 7' face will be taken out of use for public services.

I note that, two weeks after platform 7 was brought into use, the waiting room, toilets, etc. are still not ready. Not even any platform seats if you have to wait for your train. Not good.

There is a departure screen on platform 7, not sure if it is working yet (it just displayed "East Midlands Trains" while I was there). Will they recover it when platform 7 ceases to be a real platform?

The main departure board is showing services departing from platform 7 - even when they are buses! Yesterday evening I arrived at Derby station shortly before 2200, and was pleasantly surprised to see the main departure board showing a service to Matlock at 2210 from platform 7. However, waiting on platform 7, I became increasingly concerned when there was no sign of any train. Of course, there were no staff to ask, as they currently have no facilities for them on platform 7 either. I went back to the main concourse, where I was told that yes there was a train to Matlock at 2210. However, when I pointed out that platform 7 was totally deserted, they checked and found that it was actually a bus! Although the departure board showed it as departing from platform 7, there was also a scrolling message at the bottom of the board that I had missed, saying that it was departing from bay D6.

Not sure why the Matlock buses are being shown with a platform number. The 2240 Matlock service was likewise shown as departing from platform 7, but with a similar scrolling message below, but none of the replacement buses to other places were shown with a platform number. However, I found it very confusing, and it also confused the station reception staff who initially also thought it was a train.

 

[martinr1]

Whoops! 18th is the new 17th

 

[Belperpete]

The new waiting room on platform 7 is finally in use, but toilets still not yet ready. Platform 7 being used by London trains. Matlock trains using the middle of old platform 6, while both outer ends are being rebuilt.
On the bus to Burton, spotted that one of the replacement buses coming the other way appeared to have been involved in an incident. Police and ambulance in attendance, bus with bonnet open, and passengers standing on the pavement.

 

[martinr1]

The last day of Matlock trains for a while on Friday 24th August:-

 

[grumpyoldman01]

I was at Midland station Friday night to get some tickets and decided to have a look; I must admit I am a bit confused!

All being well, I'll be catching the 12.09 St Pancras train on Sunday, and according to both the NRES website and Realtime Trains it's using platform 4; but on Friday evening, that platform was very much still a worksite - and it's not signaled!

So unless there's a hell of a lot of work undertaken on Saturday, there's no way any trains can use no 4!

I noticed that a lot of new speed limit signs have been put in place, and surprised to see some showing 25; wasn't part of the plan to increase all to a minimum of 30, with 40 wherever possible?

Surprised that some MML trains running between Derby and Clay Cross via Ambergate (and vice versa) on 26th; I thought they'd finished weeks ago

 

[43055]

I was at Midland station Friday night to get some tickets and decided to have a look; I must admit I am a bit confused!

All being well, I'll be catching the 12.09 St Pancras train on Sunday, and according to both the NRES website and Realtime Trains it's using platform 4; but on Friday evening, that platform was very much still a worksite - and it's not signaled!

So unless there's a hell of a lot of work undertaken on Saturday, there's no way any trains can use no 4!

I noticed that a lot of new speed limit signs have been put in place, and surprised to see some showing 25; wasn't part of the plan to increase all to a minimum of 30, with 40 wherever possible?

Surprised that some MML trains running between Derby and Clay Cross via Ambergate (and vice versa) on 26th; I thought they'd finished weeks ago

The platform will be its normal planned platfrom for before the remodelling. All the London trains have been useing platfrom 7 since the 22nd July.

Where did you see this speedboard? The platform s a are definitely 40 on 1 and 2 and 30 on 3 to 6.

I think there was one or two a day in the clay cross direction in the morning and evening to and from sheffield.