I'm all for free debate but I did wonder why Davros is cropping up on a railway forum. I suppose he would need to book assisted travel so there is a link. I'd certainly be amused to see him trundling up a ramp with the platform staff making no comment whatsoever.
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Doctor Who Series 8
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have you not seen the new series? (or that one with Sylvestor McCoy from the 80's, for that matter), he can hover on to the train by the power of CGI now
Xenophon PCDGS
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My good lady wife of some 72 years vintage watched last night's episode (Robin Hood) for the very first time out of curiosity and was unsure if she heard correctly that the Tardis was programmed to arrive in the year 1192AD, as King John was not the ruling monarch until 1199AD. She also asks if the young actress who was the assistant to Doctor Who was the same one that appeared in the "Emmerdale" series a number of years ago.
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She was.
Jenna-Louise Coleman now known as Jenna Coleman played Jasmine Thomas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenna_Coleman
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She also played another murderer in the bbc series Waterloo Road...
That'll be why he was referred to as Prince John.
I'm afraid that voice sounds more like Rusty the 'good' dalek from Episode 2.
Butts
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Some of us would like to see him cropping up in the bloody programme :cry:
Xenophon PCDGS
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I have passed this information on to my good lady wife, who thought that it was King John that was named.
I wasn't impressed with episode three either, I'm afraid. The dialogue between the Doctor and Robin Hood seemed to have been written for a younger actor - I could imagine the exchange of insults being handled well by Smith or Tennant, but it seemed a bit sad when delivered by an actor like Capaldi.
I'm fairly sure it was Prince John, with Richard the Lionheart being referenced as being off on a crusade.
The Sheriff of Nottingham did refer to beating John with his spaceship and making himself King.
DynamicSpirit
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Maybe what you need isn't Dr Who itself, but for the BBC to create a new spin-off series - 'The Davros Adventures'?
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I'm erring towards agreeing with you that this series is going downhill so far, though perhaps for slightly different reasons.
I thought the acting by both Capaldi and Coleman were very good, and some of the dialog - and the theme of the Doctor being convinced Robin Hood couldn't be real - was funny, which I did like.
But on the other hand, I'm starting to get a sense in this series of plot consistency/believability falling apart, which is starting to spoil things for me. Obvious bugbears in this episodes included the absurd stupidity of the guard who was guarding the Doctor and Robin (would anyone above the age of 5 seriously fall for their screaming trick?), the impossibility of firing the gold arrow accurately enough to hit the moving spaceship, and the idea that the spaceship could get power from an arrow that had merely hit its external wall (and mysteriously failed to bounce off).
Humour is great, but not when it comes at the expense of the plot
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Humour is subjective. I thought that the dialogue could have been funny, but Capaldi, being a more mature actor, couldn't carry the notion that the Doctor felt threatened by someone who was younger and better looking than himself in the right way.
Matt Smith would have come across as being put out that Clara's head had been turned by someone he didn't think existed, and David Tennant's Doctor, with that little underlying streak of narcissism, would have been much better placed to make the scenes work.
I think the real problem would have been that the writers, including Mr Moffat, probably had no idea how the character would be played during pre production. For me, those scenes fell a bit flat because of that. I can't really describe it any better, but one of things that I've thought is that Mr Capaldi has a more serious face!
Matt Smith would have come across as being put out that Clara's head had been turned by someone he didn't think existed, and David Tennant's Doctor, with that little underlying streak of narcissism, would have been much better placed to make the scenes work.
I think the real problem would have been that the writers, including Mr Moffat, probably had no idea how the character would be played during pre production. For me, those scenes fell a bit flat because of that. I can't really describe it any better, but one of things that I've thought is that Mr Capaldi has a more serious face!
The second point I'd have to agree with but the power problems had slowed the spaceship down so it was pretty much hovering, thus presenting an easier target.
But isn't he only just getting used to not being "young" and good looking? Having looked young for most of the last 1100 years?
That's a fair point, but, to me anyway, it just isn't working out well! I just detect a bit of disparity between the writing and the characterisation. I hope it will settle down, but at the moment I don't find it enjoyable to watch. I do think he could be a great Doctor, but I sense he is working against the lines a bit. He said himself he is developing as he goes along.
I do think that the writers need to move away from the style of the Tennant and Smith eras, otherwise it will continue to disappoint me!
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Capaldi's not doing a bad job so far. It's good to see an older Doctor again, like the classic ones.
I've got nothing at all against an older Doctor. I just don't really want to see him acting like he's 12. The Tennant and Smith versions could get away with it, Capaldi can't!
That's no reflection on him by the way, it just doesn't look or feel right to me!
That's no reflection on him by the way, it just doesn't look or feel right to me!
Indeed, a lot of lines feel like they where written for Tennant or Smith, and feel peculiar coming out of Capaldis mouth. I hope as it progresses, capaldi will find 'his' doctor a little more. Probably a character whom is more irritable and cantankerous.
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Watching the episode yesterday, I can't say I'm a massive fan of Clara, despite Jenna Coleman playing her extremely well.
I'm not a massive fan of the character, but I do like Jenna Coleman. The idea of the impossible girl was always a bit naff in my opinion, and the thought of her going back in to the Doctor's time stream to save his former selves was not something I enjoyed.
That said, it did provoke a warm glow to see her 'interacting' with William Hartnell and the others
That said, it did provoke a warm glow to see her 'interacting' with William Hartnell and the others
Xenophon PCDGS
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I would like to see how well Sandi Toksvig would fit into the role of Clara, being nearer to the age of the Doctor.
Well she's nearer but still somewhat short of 2000.
Butts
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Is anyone else getting a bit sick of this school featuring every week ?
Can't we have some Ice Men , Silurians or preferably Davros to liven things up ?
I'm not sure yet whether it's Capaldi or the plots that are failing :cry:
Tonight's episode was the pits !!!
Can't we have some Ice Men , Silurians or preferably Davros to liven things up ?
I'm not sure yet whether it's Capaldi or the plots that are failing :cry:
Tonight's episode was the pits !!!
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Agree - though it's not the school. I don't want philosophical debate - I want Daleks, Cybermen and as yet undiscovered terrors.
And I don't like Dr Capaldi.
I think it was the plot that failed last night. Can't remember them right now, but there were some sillies like the gravity on the David Tennant 'Impossible Planet' two-parter. Also, I agree that taking Clara home in EVERY episode is a bit excessive. And are they going to get round to explaining how she and the doctor end up chained to some things (at the begining of last week's episode) or did they write that as a dramatic openning sequence and forgot to follow it up?
martin2345uk
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They're not going to revisit that, it was just a lighthearted start to an episode to show that they have other adventures that we don't see.
backontrack
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Is this Courtney character a new companion, or what?
But I am enjoying this series so far.
But I am enjoying this series so far.
DynamicSpirit
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Now we're half way through the series, it seems to me that this season is taking a very different direction from previously: To a much greater extent than before, the episodes are primarily about the personal relationships between the Doctor and the various companions, with the fact that they are fighting various aliens becoming the secondary feature. Last night was a great example of that - it looked to me like the real story wasn't the strange things happening to the moon, it was the idea that the Doctor had to leave a decision up to humanity to make, so that humanity could progress.
Personally I really like the new emphasis. Obviously that's not going to be to everyone's tastes though.
I also like the way a lot of both humour and tension is being added by the idea that this Doctor doesn't understand the nuances of human personal relationships - and so keeps saying things in ways that he doesn't realize will upset people. And then he doesn't understand why people are upset.
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Was that Clara's last appearance in the series (I think Jenna Coleman is leaving the series)? The info about the next episode on the freeview tv guide doesn't mention Jenna or her character Clara
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