I agree, any vehicle that is autonomous is always something that worries me.Yes, I would have to say that I am a bit worried about the prospect of driverless cars.
Hopefully they won't catch on.
I agree, any vehicle that is autonomous is always something that worries me.
I wouldn’t say many humans are bad at controlling vehicles. Most of them are fine.Why? Humans are terrible at controlling things, they make lethal errors all the time.
I wouldn’t say many humans are bad at controlling vehicles. Most of them are fine.
For example I would trust my sister, a competent and safe driver, to drive me over anything autonomous, if I was able to fit into cars.
Fundamentally, I'm against anything that threatens the railway.
Also, just because autonomous cars may exist, doesn’t mean everyone will use them. Not everyone uses the train, but not everyone uses a car either.Fundamentally, I'm against anything that threatens the railway.
My sister is also well tested…I wouldn't trust any human to drive better than a well-tested automatic system. An automatic system does not make mistakes, it does exactly what it is programmed to do.
My sister is also well tested…
As are many technological systems. Also, I’m assuming these autonomous cars are being designed by humans.She is still a human and thus flawed.
I wonder why the James Bond 'personal jetpack' never took off (or hasn't yet?) Similarly the Segway (sp?)?I think that motorcars could yet prove a dead end. The underlying horseless carriages which they are trying to automate are late Victorian technology that will be leapfrogged - in a literal and quite spectacular way - by the first adopters of personal jetpacks. Humans have for thousands of years dreamed of being able to fly at will, whereas the cultural idea that motorcars embody a form of personal freedom had to be manufactured over decades of the mid twentieth century. Given that ultimate form of personal freedom, I think we can see which the public will prefer.
We have been promised jetpacks since the fifties, if not before, but recent advances have brought them closer to reality. I saw one on Top Gear the other night, and it won a race against an electric racing car.
I wonder why the James Bond 'personal jetpack' never took off (or hasn't yet?) Similarly the Segway (sp?)?
I wouldn't trust any human to drive better than a well-tested automatic system. An automatic system does not make mistakes, it does exactly what it is programmed to do.
There is that, I suppose, though I'd say it only threatens branch lines. It would likely increase use of longer-distance and commuter routes, because you'd buy your journey as "mobility as a service" and likely not get a through car service unless you chose a very high price, more likely it'd be an electric car to the station and one to your destination at the other end.
This is true. I don't consider myself anymore likely to take one than a car..Also, just because autonomous cars may exist, doesn’t mean everyone will use them. Not everyone uses the train, but not everyone uses a car either.
My sister is also well tested…
I think it also depends on the setup. Will autonomous cars have a manual override?The branch lines are often the best ones !
This is true. I don't consider myself anymore likely to take one than a car..
But don't humans program the technology. Also tech can fail , pretty sure a lot of people have been taken the wrong way by sat nav .I wouldn't trust any human to drive better than a well-tested automatic system. An automatic system does not make mistakes, it does exactly what it is programmed to do.
There is that, I suppose, though I'd say it only threatens branch lines. It would likely increase use of longer-distance and commuter routes, because you'd buy your journey as "mobility as a service" and likely not get a through car service unless you chose a very high price, more likely it'd be an electric car to the station and one to your destination at the other end.
How exactly do you propose to do that without rebuilding entire cities? And how popular do you think any such measures would be?Pedestrians and cyclists are best segregated from general traffic in urban areas.
Is she?Also, just because autonomous cars may exist, doesn’t mean everyone will use them. Not everyone uses the train, but not everyone uses a car either.
My sister is also well tested…
How exactly do you propose to do that without rebuilding entire cities?
And how popular do you think any such measures would be?
But don't humans program the technology.
Also tech can fail , pretty sure a lot of people have been taken the wrong way by sat nav .
What I want is a self-driving car that I can use for the convenience of having a car but then coming home pissed as a newt whilst sitting in the back seat.What you probably want is a self-driving car to take you to the station for the train. Trains are good at mass transit.
They're a threat to country branch lines but not to the railway as a whole.
Why? Humans are terrible at controlling things, they make lethal errors all the time.
I wouldn't trust any human to drive better than a well-tested automatic system. An automatic system does not make mistakes, it does exactly what it is programmed to do.
That is a flawed argument because a automatic system can and will make mistakes.I wouldn't trust any human to drive better than a well-tested automatic system. An automatic system does not make mistakes, it does exactly what it is programmed to do.
I think people should listen to Elon Musk a little closer. Each time a Tesla has a fatality he states that the Human up the front is there to prevent the vehicle from making a mistake and that they should never be taking their hands off the wheel. Humans are very good predicting behaviour and being proactive. Humans also have the ability to change a decision.
I'm of the belief that the technology is much further way than people would want us to believe.
That's because Tesla has what is essentially a driver-assist system. It has not been developed, tested or proven to anything like the extent to which a genuine unsupervised self-driving system would need to be.
I would agree that unsupervised self-driving cars are a long way off, but will arrive eventually.
Not sure what that has to do with the price of fish but I'll bite. DOO - Bad, GOO - Bad, DCO - I like. Similar to my view on automation. Having all these new safety features like lane keep assist and adaptive cruise control etc is something I fully support. When computers and the Human work together it is a lot better. We need technology to support us, not replace us. Automation - bad, Driver assist - I likeI retain my view that DOO is a blip and "GOO" (guard-only operation) will pervade the railways within 50 years.
Of course in the meantime driver-assist functions will get ever better.
Yes, however none of it is entirely segregated. We don't build subways in this country anymore as a rule so the idea of removing traffic lights just isn't possible.London is making excellent progress with Dutch style segregation, while any new development should mandatorily include it.
Humans are absolutely useless at doing monotonous jobs which very occasionally need them to react quickly when something goes wrong thoughI think people should listen to Elon Musk a little closer. Each time a Tesla has a fatality he states that the Human up the front is there to prevent the vehicle from making a mistake and that they should never be taking their hands off the wheel. Humans are very good predicting behaviour and being proactive. Humans also have the ability to change a decision.
I wouldn't trust any human to drive better than a well-tested automatic system. An automatic system does not make mistakes, it does exactly what it is programmed to do.
Eeek. That looks specifically designed to chop the legs off any pedestrian or cyclist who gets in the way. Shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a public area.I wouldn't like to be a pedestrian that gets hit by that!
Well if you all lived nearby, it would make perfect sense to begin the drinking party in the pod! No risk of being pulled over if there’s no driver required...I go to meet my 5 mates in the centre of town to go on the lash. We all get in our pod as no one will share a pod because why would you.
Yes, which is why you have extensive testing.