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Driving well below the speed limit

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I don't know if it's just the nice weather making people dawdle, but I have been driving around in my locality on the weekend and a lot of drivers (typically those with stupidly large SUVs are the worst offenders) have seen it fit to drive at well below the speed limit - e.g. 30/25 in a 40mph zone, or 20 in a 30 when there's a clear road in front of them. Is there any reason why this is a thing these days?
 
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I don't know if it's just the nice weather making people dawdle, but I have been driving around in my locality on the weekend and a lot of drivers (typically those with stupidly large SUVs are the worst offenders) have seen it fit to drive at well below the speed limit - e.g. 30/25 in a 40mph zone, or 20 in a 30 when there's a clear road in front of them. Is there any reason why this is a thing these days?
There are a lot of unconfident drivers on the roads, as well as increasing number of the most dangerous type of all - the ones who didn’t earn their licence in this country and who don’t have a good grasp of English.
 

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I don't know if it's just the nice weather making people dawdle, but I have been driving around in my locality on the weekend and a lot of drivers (typically those with stupidly large SUVs are the worst offenders) have seen it fit to drive at well below the speed limit - e.g. 30/25 in a 40mph zone, or 20 in a 30 when there's a clear road in front of them. Is there any reason why this is a thing these days?
Probably because it's a speed LIMIT - not a figure for everybody to attain.
 

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Probably because it's a speed LIMIT - not a figure for everybody to attain.
The favourite phrase of the rubbish driver, usually used in defensive tones when someone has been called out for driving for miles with a queue of traffic behind them in their own little world.

See particularly driving at 38 in a 50 and 38 in a 30 in a constant tedious succession.
 

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I don't know if it's just the nice weather making people dawdle, but I have been driving around in my locality on the weekend and a lot of drivers (typically those with stupidly large SUVs are the worst offenders) have seen it fit to drive at well below the speed limit - e.g. 30/25 in a 40mph zone, or 20 in a 30 when there's a clear road in front of them. Is there any reason why this is a thing these days?
Sun dazzle? I‘ve seen a load of cars struggle on one bit of road including someone bouncing off the kerb - they come round a gentle curve to a complicated situation and the sun right in their faces.
Another thing to look out for with family cars is the driver doing multiple parenting whilst driving, including turning round to sort the kids out.
 

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Sun dazzle? I‘ve seen a load of cars struggle on one bit of road including someone bouncing off the kerb - they come round a gentle curve to a complicated situation and the sun right in their faces.
Another thing to look out for with family cars is the driver doing multiple parenting whilst driving, including turning round to sort the kids out.

All of these are reasons why that driver shouldn’t be in charge of a car. If they have sun dazzle then they haven’t bothered to invest in sunglasses.
 

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What I seem to be encountering a lot is drivers who can't maintain an average speed. I don't like tailgaters so I try to be a considerate driver who leaves a decent gap between myself and the car in front, only to find the car ahead of me to inexplicably slow down for no reason and myself then end up too close, so I drop back and then they speed up again... and repeat.
 

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On the subject of cameras, I go past a speed camera every day i go to/from work. It is in a 60mph zone and I tend to go past it at 50-55mph - unlike a lot of people who seem to think that seeing the camera means they have to slow down to 40, despite the camera sign just before it also having a national speed limit sign). I actually overtake more people while passing the camera than at any other point on that road!
Sorry for quoting a three-week-old post, but it's always a sign that someone is driving inattentively when they see the yellow box and immediately brake to 28mph despite not being in a 30 zone!
There's one on the A636 on the boundary between Clayton West and Scissett that has this happen a lot. It's in a 40 zone just before a drop down to 30, and you can see the 30 signs ahead when you pass the camera... but a good number of vehicles are either already doing under 30 because they haven't been observing signs, or panic when they see the camera and slam the anchors. Think there's also a bit of "staring down the bonnet" style driving going on, and not even seeing the great big 30 sign ahead because it isn't in their narrow field of vision.
 

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Had one at the weekend. 40 limit, I'll do 31. 50 limit, I'll do 35, except when I see the speed camera and I'll immediately hit the brakes and pass at 25. Bordering on dangerous in every respect.
 

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All of these are reasons why that driver shouldn’t be in charge of a car. If they have sun dazzle then they haven’t bothered to invest in sunglasses.
Or not anticipating that the sun will be in their eyes when turning a corner if it had previously been shining to one side.

Sorry for quoting a three-week-old post, but it's always a sign that someone is driving inattentively when they see the yellow box and immediately brake to 28mph despite not being in a 30 zone!
There's one on the A636 on the boundary between Clayton West and Scissett that has this happen a lot. It's in a 40 zone just before a drop down to 30, and you can see the 30 signs ahead when you pass the camera... but a good number of vehicles are either already doing under 30 because they haven't been observing signs, or panic when they see the camera and slam the anchors. Think there's also a bit of "staring down the bonnet" style driving going on, and not even seeing the great big 30 sign ahead because it isn't in their narrow field of vision.
One I came across yesterday was a 50 mph zone suddenly reducing to 20mph. There should either be an advance notice, say 300 yards out, or the zones should drop down to 30 mph then 20 mph.
 

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All of these are reasons why that driver shouldn’t be in charge of a car. If they have sun dazzle then they haven’t bothered to invest in sunglasses.
Who wears sunglasses when driving…..the light levels are too variable. And sunglasses are an expensive option for those who wear glasses.
 

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Who wears sunglasses when driving…..the light levels are too variable. And sunglasses are an expensive option for those who wear glasses.
I can't speak for prescription sun glasses but regular sunglasses are as cheap or expensive as you like. As for viable light levels, simply take them off when not needed.
 

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Who wears sunglasses when driving…..the light levels are too variable. And sunglasses are an expensive option for those who wear glasses.
I routinely wear prescription sunglasses while driving, think they cost me £65 or so four years ago. Which is hardly a king's ransom compared to the rest of the costs of driving, even if you don't wear them the rest of the time.

That said, it's entirely possible to get caught out by a change in the weather or by travelling at an unexpected time, having left sunglasses at home.
As for viable light levels, simply take them off when not needed.
It's entirely possible to switch sets of glasses while driving, though only really feasible on straight roads with low traffic, and may not be advisable for those with a strong prescription. Certainly not something to be attempted mid-manoeuvre!
 

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Who wears sunglasses when driving…..the light levels are too variable. And sunglasses are an expensive option for those who wear glasses.

Only if you buy glasses from an optician, who overcharge for glasses to subsidise cheaper eye tests. Buy online and spectacles (sun or otherwise) are cheap as chips, indeed as most glasses purveyors do two-for-one offers it's just a case of paying for the tint on the second pair, usually about £10 or so extra.
 

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On the subject of glasses for driving (and I agree everyone should have sunglasses in the UK given how low the sun is much of the year) if you are driving a car with modern LEDs then you won't need them but if you are driving one with halogens then I strongly recommend getting night driving glasses as well; makes a huge difference against being blinded by the former (or xenons).
 

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Who wears sunglasses when driving…..the light levels are too variable. And sunglasses are an expensive option for those who wear glasses.
I do, because I need glasses to drive, so I naturally have a pair of prescription sunglasses for driving when the sun is out.

Only problem is that they are stored in the little glasses box by the interior lights, so when we went to the Caribbean a few years ago, I left them in the car, so had no sun-glasses all holiday!
 

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All of these are reasons why that driver shouldn’t be in charge of a car. If they have sun dazzle then they haven’t bothered to invest in sunglasses.
Sun dazzle at particular spots in roads can be for a matter of 5 minutes every day…
 

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Probably because it's a speed LIMIT - not a figure for everybody to attain.
It is, actually, in good road conditions. You’ll fail your test for driving well below the speed limit and not making safe progress. It’s inconsiderate driving and marks you out as having low proficiency.

With the perfect driving weather we have been having the road conditions have been very good.

Who wears sunglasses when driving…..the light levels are too variable. And sunglasses are an expensive option for those who wear glasses.
I do, when it’s sunny. A good polarised pair won’t impact your awareness.

I can't speak for prescription sun glasses but regular sunglasses are as cheap or expensive as you like. As for viable light levels, simply take them off when not needed.
Or just slide them on top of your head, which is what I do if it clouds over.
 

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Who wears sunglasses when driving…..
A huge number of people who value the ability to see where they're going whilst driving...

And sunglasses are an expensive option for those who wear glasses.
Nonsense. I got a pair of cheap clip on things (easily slide on/off whilst driving), which also came with a yellow night driving pair, for under a tenner from Amazon. I also have a pair of prescription sunglasses which cost no more than a regular pair of glasses.

As for variable light levels, it would be very unusual to keep going from bright sunshine to so dark that sunglasses were inappropriate.

On the subject of glasses for driving (and I agree everyone should have sunglasses in the UK given how low the sun is much of the year) if you are driving a car with modern LEDs then you won't need them but if you are driving one with halogens then I strongly recommend getting night driving glasses as well; makes a huge difference against being blinded by the former (or xenons).
Yep, agreed! I have some cheap clip-on ones (see above), I don't always wear them, but they live in the car and do come in useful for spells, especially on long motorway/dual carriageway drives. Surprisingly useful around dusk (now that most local authorities have set street lighting to require lower light levels before switching on) and also in foggy conditions.
 

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What I seem to be encountering a lot is drivers who can't maintain an average speed. I don't like tailgaters so I try to be a considerate driver who leaves a decent gap between myself and the car in front, only to find the car ahead of me to inexplicably slow down for no reason and myself then end up too close, so I drop back and then they speed up again... and repeat.
Very annoying unless you have adaptive cruise control; at least then you don’t have to move your feet to react to the person in front.
 

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What I seem to be encountering a lot is drivers who can't maintain an average speed. I don't like tailgaters so I try to be a considerate driver who leaves a decent gap between myself and the car in front, only to find the car ahead of me to inexplicably slow down for no reason and myself then end up too close, so I drop back and then they speed up again... and repeat.
The same type of people who you catch up to on a dual carriageway, who then suddenly accelerate the moment you pull out into the outside lane to overtake them.
 

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The same type of people who you catch up to on a dual carriageway, who then suddenly accelerate the moment you pull out into the outside lane to overtake them.

If you think about it, if they are randomly oscillating speed then their behaviour will often look like that even if there is no intentionality to it.
 

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Very annoying unless you have adaptive cruise control; at least then you don’t have to move your feet to react to the person in front.
Definitely! I seem to spend a lot of time moving up and down from third to fourth gear following these sorts of drivers in 30mph zones!
 

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The obvious answer to the sunglasses thing is to get contact lenses, then just wear regular non-prescription sunglasses. 8-)
 

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As for variable light levels, it would be very unusual to keep going from bright sunshine to so dark that sunglasses were inappropriate.
Try driving in Surrey! Lots of tree lined roads where its comparitively pitch black when you go into the shadows.
And anywhere it isn’t unusual for it to be fine until you turn into the sun, especially uphill.
The same type of people who you catch up to on a dual carriageway, who then suddenly accelerate the moment you pull out into the outside lane to overtake them.
I think they have just drifted off their standard speed due to distraction/inattention. Your appearance makes them check their speed and correct
 

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I think they have just drifted off their standard speed due to distraction/inattention. Your appearance makes them check their speed and correct

I have a less charitable explanation

There have been times when I had people accelerate when being overtaken on single carriageway roads
 

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There have been times when I had people accelerate when being overtaken on single carriageway roads
In reverse, drivers who attempt an overtake at the end of a speed restriction puzzle me in expecting that there will be no acceleration from the vehicle in front.
 

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In reverse, drivers who attempt an overtake at the end of a speed restriction puzzle me in expecting that there will be no acceleration from the vehicle in front.

If I have decided that I want to overtake, then if I start overtaking from a slow speed, I'll get faster acceleration and be on the wrong side of the road for a shorter time.
 

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