DRS to sell heritage locomotives

[Wyrleybart]

Yeah, so I’ve seen the 20 hours quote twice today. But one source claimed it had gone to York Thrall to be prepped for RHTT work so no idea what to believe.

Probably standby if it still has 20 TOPS hours. That is three days work, and would save three circuits from cancellation. It is doomed after the 20 hours anyway unless they have a change of heart so may has well use it down to zero hours doing something worthwhile, than being switched off in December with 20 hours still in the bank

 

[MattyJames]

I understand this may be edging on the side of speculation but will 37s be used on the East Yorkshire RHTT next year? Albeit not with DRS?.

 

[The_Train]

I understand this may be edging on the side of speculation but will 37s be used on the East Yorkshire RHTT next year? Albeit not with DRS?.

It's anybody's guess at the moment - didn't we spend years saying this will be the final year of the 20s and then they kept reappearing?

 

[ExRes]

Info on WNXX shows the 37s were purchased as follows

37069 - Europhoenix
37218 - Europhoenix
37401 - Locomotive Services
37402 - Ardania Engineering
37423 - Europhoenix

37424 remains unsold

And no, I've no idea who Ardania are nor do they come up on google other than as a group of master engineer dwarves .......

 

[The_Train]

Info on WNXX shows the 37s were purchased as follows

37069 - Europhoenix
37218 - Europhoenix
37401 - Locomotive Services
37402 - Ardania Engineering
37423 - Europhoenix

37424 remains unsold

And no, I've no idea who Ardania are nor do they come up on google other than as a group of master engineer dwarves .......

Interesting that Europhoenix have purchased more. Possibly to help out with the ROG contract considering their reliability issues of late?

Always good to see LSL boosting their fleet but yeah, no idea on that Ardania Engineering. No doubt it will turn out to be a new company who are looking to revolutionise railways by converting an old loco to run on fresh air

 

[Slug1]

Interesting that Europhoenix have purchased more. Possibly to help out with the ROG contract considering their reliability issues of late?

Always good to see LSL boosting their fleet but yeah, no idea on that Ardania Engineering. No doubt it will turn out to be a new company who are looking to revolutionise railways by converting an old loco to run on fresh air

Or could Europhoenix be purchasing for a source of spares to keep the current pool afloat?

No doubt all of those locos need work to return to the mainline, wheelsets being required etc etc and even 401 is due a big exam iirc.

 

[The_Train]

Or could Europhoenix be purchasing for a source of spares to keep the current pool afloat?

No doubt all of those locos need work to return to the mainline, no doubt wheelsets being required and even 401 is due a big exam iirc.

It's always possible that any purchase of heritage traction is for a source of parts, although would Europhoenix purchase 3 for this purpose considering they only own a small amount at the moment? Could always be possible that they have other organisations away from ROG interested - Loram, maybe?

 

[meld3]

402 could be a typo as there is no company registered/on google by that name.
Maybe its Andania Engineering Ltd in Rotherham planning to add some wheels and make a new 40....

 

[The_Train]

402 could be a typo as there is no company registered/on google by that name.
Maybe its Andania Engineering Ltd in Rotherham planning to add some wheels and make a new 40....

It is being suggested elsewhere that it is likely to be a typo and meant to read Andania Engineering - apparently they own 40013 (hence the name) which is operated by LSL at the moment.

 

[D365]

Some oddball OTMRs (On-Train Monitoring Recorders) in this vehicle list; all I can say is good luck!

 

[Forty29]

Any news on 37407 recently used on RHTT this year? Kept with 419/425?

 

[alexl92]

It is my understanding that 407 had the most recent B exam of all of them, so will probably be the last one standing… whether or not that means it’ll stay for a while or not I don’t know.

 

[ExRes]

Europhoenix purchases 37069, 37218 & 37423 are due to be moved TnT by 37611 & 37901 on todays 1145 0M59 Crewe Gresty Bridge to Leicester LIP

 

[D365]

Does Leicester have space for more 37s? What with the ongoing construction work.

 

[Spaceship323]

Does Leicester have space for more 37s? What with the ongoing construction work.

Then 37's are based at Derby RTC now and the 50's have returned to Kidderminster so there is some space for them

 

[ExRes]

Europhoenix purchases 37069, 37218 & 37423 are due to be moved TnT by 37611 & 37901 on todays 1145 0M59 Crewe Gresty Bridge to Leicester LIP

Ran a couple of hours late but made it to Leicester

 

[ScotRail158725]

What stock remains with DRS and has all of it been sold on or have some went for scrap?

 

[D365]

What stock remains with DRS and has all of it been sold on or have some went for scrap?

I can’t confirm vehicle numbers, but I’d be surprised if any of the 37/4s are scrapped anytime soon. The ETH (electric train heat) facility is still valuable.

 

[fgwrich]

I can’t confirm vehicle numbers, but I’d be surprised if any of the 37/4s are scrapped anytime soon. The ETH (electric train heat) facility is still valuable.

Indeed, and some of those have had a lot, and I mean a lot, of money spent on rebuilding and overhauling them less than a decade ago.

 

[ExRes]

Seems as though DRS are putting another batch up for sale next week, 37407, 37419, 37424 & 37425

 

[Iskra]

Seems as though DRS are putting another batch up for sale next week, 37407, 37419, 37424 & 37425

This has happened now, so the end of 37’s with DRS

 

[D365]

This has happened now, so the end of 37’s with DRS

Has 716 been put up for sale?

 

[Iskra]

Has 716 been put up for sale?

Yes, you buying it?

 

[321362]

When/if they are scrapped could any of their parts be used on other services, so long as they're not in terrible condition? Does this violate any ORR or some other body's rules?

 

[Razorblades]

When/if they are scrapped could any of their parts be used on other services, so long as they're not in terrible condition? Does this violate any ORR or some other body's rules?

By 'other services' I presume you mean other Class 37s? Yes, this is regular custom and practice, and has been throughout the diesel era.

 

[D365]

As I've written before, I would be surprised if 37/4s are scrapped anytime soon. The ETH (electric train heat) facility is very useful - so much so that locos like 403, 407, 424 were pulled "back from the dead".

 

[DarloRich]

As I've written before, I would be surprised if 37/4s are scrapped anytime soon. The ETH (electric train heat) facility is very useful - so much so that locos like 403, 407, 424 were pulled "back from the dead".

absolutely - someone in the spot hire market will take them on.

 

[aem7ac]

Fingers crossed the 401, 419, and 425 find new homes. The liveries on those 3 are amazing.

 

[D365]

Fingers crossed the 401, 419, and 425 find new homes. The liveries on those 3 are amazing.

401 was purchased by LSL and appears to now be back in traffic.

 

[RobShipway]

I have created a thread https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/who-will-buy-the-drs-class-37-engines.261673/ in the Speculation Area asking as to who is going to buy the DRS class 37 loco's, as I cannot see them going to any of the preserved lines, due to financial issues.