VioletEclipse
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York Place tram stop is now closed.
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kylemore
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Presumably termination at the West End is necessary because there is no turnback facility at St Andrew Square?
If this is the case perhaps it would have been more sensible to provide one from the start at this location with the present scenario in mind.
If this is the case perhaps it would have been more sensible to provide one from the start at this location with the present scenario in mind.
FlybeDash8Q400
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There should be one there, but never has been. Princes Street or St Andrew Square should have got a crossover before.
This is a temporary move as the construction workers need time and space to remove the old stop. Once the old stop has completely gone (I’m thinking track will have been laid where the stop was as well) then the trams will run in service to St Andrew Square, then out of service to York Place to reverse, reverse at the crossover, then back to St Andrew Square to resume service to the Airport.
davetheguard
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Am I right in remembering that there was never originally intended to be a stop at York Place anyway?
It was only provided as the "end of the line" when the route -now finally being built down the hill to Leith- was cut back.
FlybeDash8Q400
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That’s correct, York Place was introduced as an idea when the northern half of the route was cut from the plan in 2011 (I think).
Wishful thinking I suppose that this might occur relatively soon...
cammyeaston
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The service to St. Andrew Square is due to resume on an as yet undisclosed date in April.
Too late for my visit!
DanNCL
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I don't think this has already been mentioned - I understand Edinburgh Tram tickets will be accepted on rail services between Haymarket and Waverley for the duration of the closure of St Andrew Square tram stop.
TheAlbanach_
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Haymarket to Waverley only. Not the other direction. I think on ScotRail only too.
DanNCL
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It’s both directions, but indeed it does appear to be ScotRail only.
Trams are only running Airport – West End
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TheAlbanach_
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Oh wow that contradicts the retail brief I was shown.It’s both directions, but indeed it does appear to be ScotRail only.
Trams are only running Airport – West End
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DanNCL
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Not good if retail briefs are contradicting what’s being advertised to the public. Sadly doesn’t surprise me with the UK rail network though.
Really? It would have been quicker to transfer onto a Lothian bus (which is also owned by the council) heading towards Princes Street, than get a train from Haymarket.It’s both directions, but indeed it does appear to be ScotRail only.
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I think the original revised plan for the final stop to be at St Andrews Square, but that an additional stop built at the turnback was approved by the council. If you dive into the Council meetings from that time, you should be able to find out the exact details.
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DanNCL
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Tram and Lothian Bus ticketing is fully integrated, tram day tickets are already valid on Lothian Buses so I didn't mention it. That validity does of course still apply during this closure, even with the ticket acceptance on ScotRail too.
Ah that's good then. I was thinking that would have been crazy not to have used Lothian Buses. The ScotRail agreement seems like a bit of needless overkill, but hey if the option is there then it's all good too.
The ticket acceptance only applies in one direction (HYM - EDB) and seemingly is intended for tram passengers travelling from the airport connecting at the Waverley to rail services.
As to why is does not apply in the other direction I can offer no explanation.
DanNCL
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So if it’s only one direction, why are Edinburgh Trams suggesting it’s both? Sadly doesn’t surprise me that we’ve got such a situation, transport operators seem incapable of telling the public the truth these days.
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Siemens Trains
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I imagine the idea is that you get off an eastbound tram at Haymarket and catch a train to Waverley so you can catch another eastbound train from there. Probably only applies to paper tickets and not Ridacards, One-Tickets, First bus season tickets and so on which are also accepted on the tram.
I can't see it making much sense in the other direction. You'd need to buy a tram ticket from one of the closed tram stops and walk down to Waverley Station with its 10 minute transfer time then catch a train to Haymarket, up the escalators/stairs/lift and pick up the tram from there.
In general aren't Waverley tickets interchangeable with Haymarket these days anyway? I've never had any difficulty with barriers or gateline staff if using tickets marked for one station at the other. Therefore I imagine any westbound passengers arriving at Waverley can use their train ticket on another train to Haymarket rather than trying to buy a tram ticket.
computerSaysNo
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Anyone know what the new pink readers on the platforms are going to be for?
FlybeDash8Q400
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I heard a rumour that it was Tap, Tap, Cap/Contactless related.
computerSaysNo
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Ah good, I wondered if it was to do with that. Don't know about other people but the lack of TapTapCap on the trams does discourage me from using it at the moment.
Looks like it. No idea when it's going live though.
Image from this Reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Edinburgh/...rams_are_finally_getting_contactless_capping/
eoff
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I see they are still in full sunshine so hopefully 10x brighter than the current ones.
The Edinburgh trams website is now saying 'by the end of this month ', so they're ahead of schedule.
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Will this allow Leith Street and York Place to fully reopen fully then?
FlybeDash8Q400
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It’ll be the same place as before. The only new infrastructure for now is the track where the stop used to be and beyond.
I don’t think it will open when Trams start running to St Andrew Sq again but I don’t think it will be much longer after that. Unlike most of the city’s recent projects this looks to be ahead of schedule so I’d say let’s see where it is when the trams start running again and it might become a bit clearer.
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Blindtraveler
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Is there any indication of when Leith walk we reopen fully to bus services? Quite frankly this is getting tedious and tiresome now