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Fatality at Chester le Street 16/12/14

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northern156

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I've seen pics of East Coast 225s being dragged over the S&C occasionally so it must be possible, but wouldn't they have to go round near Leeds to get onto it from the East or can you join further north near Skipton?

You'd still have to go through Leeds first.
 
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I was on a train in 2008 when we hit someone at Chester le Street. It seems to be a hotspot unfortunately.

I was at London on Tuesday and the train I was booked on from Kings Cross to York (20:00) eventually left one hour late

I vaguely remember something happening in around 2008/09.

In regards to it being a hotspot - this may strike up a debate, but I think the fact that there are no ticket gates, and that anyone can walk up onto the platforms, may have a factor in that.

While I'm unsure if this was an accident or suicide, as I write this, I believe installing ticket barriers at stations like CLS could actually have a much bigger impact on fatalities overall.
 

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While I'm unsure if this was an accident or suicide, as I write this, I believe installing ticket barriers at stations like CLS could actually have a much bigger impact on fatalities overall.

Unfortunately if someone is in that 'frame of mind' then ticket barriers are unlikely to be a deterrent. IIRC fences were erected at one of the lines out of London to the west (Ealing Broadway springs to mind?) to lower the number of suicides but hasn't really had an effect.
 

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Unfortunately if someone is in that 'frame of mind' then ticket barriers are unlikely to be a deterrent. IIRC fences were erected at one of the lines out of London to the west (Ealing Broadway springs to mind?) to lower the number of suicides but hasn't really had an effect.

It is awful when these things happen, and little is possible to stop them.

Looking back, my post could look quite stupid. An everyday commuter could easily do exactly that, having passed through a barrier.

One thing I would like to see in the future is that every station has a samaritan or a negotiator.
 

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It is awful when these things happen, and little is possible to stop them.

Looking back, my post could look quite stupid. An everyday commuter could easily do exactly that, having passed through a barrier.

One thing I would like to see in the future is that every station has a samaritan or a negotiator.

Maybe only any use if said person is only contemplating the act. Those that just walk out and do it would bypass such a person :(
 

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In regards to it being a hotspot - this may strike up a debate, but I think the fact that there are no ticket gates, and that anyone can walk up onto the platforms, may have a factor in that.

The other factor is probably that non-stopping trains (most of them) pass through pretty fast. A Network Rail person mentioned to me that Northallerton is a suicide hotspot, thought to be for this reason, and the same might apply here.

As research seems to suggest that things like fencing off little-used fast line platforms will make a difference, that might apply to ticket gates too.
 

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I vaguely remember something happening in around 2008/09.

In regards to it being a hotspot - this may strike up a debate, but I think the fact that there are no ticket gates, and that anyone can walk up onto the platforms, may have a factor in that.

While I'm unsure if this was an accident or suicide, as I write this, I believe installing ticket barriers at stations like CLS could actually have a much bigger impact on fatalities overall.

So, where to put them (apart from with massive rebuilding work) at CLS? Access to the only ticket sale facility is currently through the southbound platform and there is very little shelter to protect the potentially sensitive electronics needed for a ticket barrier to work (unlike TVMs they are hard to rain-proof). Many other small stations would have similar issues as well.
 

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Unfortunately if someone is in that 'frame of mind' then ticket barriers are unlikely to be a deterrent. IIRC fences were erected at one of the lines out of London to the west (Ealing Broadway springs to mind?) to lower the number of suicides but hasn't really had an effect.

Was at Ealing Broadway the other day but couldn't really see the fasts. West Drayton, however, has a fence between the fast/slow platforms
 
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