First bus to withdraw routes in East Lothian

[90019]

Lothian going as far as Haddington? There a rumour, in which Lothian demand First rearrange the operations which first are doing, and lothian pick up the places. Then in 3 months first will sell off Muss depot with small section of routes, and Lothian will be able to transferee some city route in to the depot.

I'd be surprised if this happens.

There's been rumblings of it from some enthusiasts, but that's been going for ages anyway. I think a little more telling is that there's nothing at all about it from any other drivers, so I'd take that one with a rather large pinch of salt.

 

[overthewater]

It seems to have mist a few people but details have appeared of the replacement services:

3: Clovenstone - Mayfield, Keir Hardie Drive: every 10mins
3A: Withdrawn fully replaced 3 and 33.
33: Birkenside - Edinburgh - Every 15mins
39: Woodburn - Hardengreen Every 20mins replace 92.
40: Edinburgh Portobello King's Road Muss - Dalkeith - Penicuik Town Centre


EDINBURGH SHUTTLE LTD ( Its Lothian but under a different licences)
113: Edinburgh Western General Hospital Via , Musselburgh, Ormiston, Tranent - Pencaitland

http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-e...steps-in-to-offer-villages-lifeline-1-2269088

Remaining services in East lothian council are will appear tomorrow.

 

[90019]

There are quite a few changes coming. Some have been covered in the post above.


From the 11th June:
The 33 will operate a special shuttle service between Sheriffhall P&R and Gorebridge, until the service changes on the 24th.
The X44 will start, running from Balerno to the City Centre via the Western Approach.
The 113 will start (Pencaitland to Western General).

From the 24th June:

Routes changing depot:
1 - Moving completely to Central (Currently shared between Central and Longstone)
2 - From Marine to Longstone
11 - From Marine to Central
12 - From Marine to Central
25 - To Marine
44 - Some peak workings operated by Marine
49 - From Central to Marine (Not at all happy about that - it's my favorite route)

In East Lothian:
The 40 will be a Marine single deck route.
The 44 is having some peak services extended from Wallyford to Whitecraig.

In Midlothian:
The 29 route in Mayfield is being changed slightly.
The 33 will be extended from Sheriffhall to Gorebridge.
The 39 will be a Marine single deck route.

City Centre:
The 5 and the 35 will run up to every 12 minutes.
The 47 route is being altered - between Surgeons' Hall and Queensferry Street it will run via Nicolson Square, Lauriston Place, Tollcross and Lothian Road.
The X47 will be renumbered the X37, but the route won't change.

Night Buses:
The N25 will run hourly.
The N34 is a new service that will run between Leith Street and Riccarton.
The N44 is having a minor route change in Tranent.

 

[Blindtraveler]

why move the 25 back to marine after only recently shifting it? Equally why changing the 49. heard on the roomer mill the 42s termini are being altered and there maybe changing the 69 also? Putting it back to the fort? The 113 - will this go via Leith or city? And will it be via milton road?

Moving the 49s again makes no sdnse as theres more dead milage for the Rosewell first and last buses. If they want to change something with it a decker or 2 would be nice, its a v crouded run these days!

 

[90019]

why move the 25 back to marine after only recently shifting it?

Presumably it's been decided it worked better at Marine.

heard on the roomer mill the 42s termini are being altered and there maybe changing the 69 also?

If either of these are true, they're not going to happen on the 11th or 24th of June.
What's listed are all the planned changes that are on the circular that's been put up in the depots.

Moving the 49s again makes no sdnse as theres more dead milage for the Rosewell first and last buses. If they want to change something with it a decker or 2 would be nice, its a v crouded run these days!

I believe the initial plan was for the 49 to change to deckers, but the problem is that it's really only crowded between Leith Walk and the Bridges, once you get beyond there, it's a pretty quiet bus. I'm not sure about the first buses out, but there's only the one off service back from Rosewell at night (and it's a damn good run, too - I'm hoping to get another shot at it before we lose the route).
I'm not sure why the 49 is going to Marine, but we're getting the 12 instead.

 

[Blindtraveler]

why move the 25 back to marine after only recently shifting it? Equally why changing the 49. heard on the roomer mill the 42s termini are being altered and there maybe changing the 69 also? Putting it back to the fort? The 113 - will this go via Leith or city? And will it be via milton road?

Moving the 49s again makes no sdnse as theres more dead milage for the Rosewell first and last buses. If they want to change something with it a decker or 2 would be nice, its a v crouded run these days!

 

[tbtc]

There's not a lot of dead mileage for the 25, given the short trip along Inchview Terrace to Marine depot (more sense than disrupting journeys en route for driver swaps etc).

Increasing the 5 and 35 is interesting, given the lack of overlap with any First services - I never thought these were really "growth" services.

But its the change to the 47 that surprises me most - one of those routes that I've often wondered whether there'd be a market for (from the A7 to Lothian Road) - the old SMT C11 was about the only other one to try this!

 

[Blindtraveler]

remember that one! As to 49s, maybe if ridership outwith the Leith/bridges area grows we wil see a decker or 2 on it. Its certainly got potential for some more local traffic in Midlothian now Id have thought?
Pitty central drivers who have to do 12s soon, not a run id enjoy.
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
back to topic - Prentis of Haddington have won 121 and 123 and plan to make changes to both for the better by looks of it. 129 is surprisingly tendered and has been won by Eve Coaches who are promising new buses (Id guess Solos) and a better service on the run.
Story at East Lothian Courier website
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
midlothian councils tendered work Is apparently going to Edinburgh Coach Lines and will include the 110 via Prestonpans and Port Seton to Tranent.

 

[Eng274]

I imagine (purely my own thoughts) that if the 49 is just busy between Leith and the Bridges, then its not really a capacity problem on the 49 per se, since the 7 and 14 which run double deckers, cover the same ground. And the 25 and 12 cover the Duke Street - Princes Street corridor pretty well. And the others, 10, 11, 16 etc.

It wouldn't be worthwhile putting deckers on the 49 to provide extra seats on a small portion of the route, especially when new single deckers were bought to supplement the route just a couple of years ago. But then again, speculate to accumulate is what saw Lothian's share of the midlothian market explode in size..

 

[tbtc]

I imagine (purely my own thoughts) that if the 49 is just busy between Leith and the Bridges, then its not really a capacity problem on the 49 per se, since the 7 and 14 which run double deckers, cover the same ground. And the 25 and 12 cover the Duke Street - Princes Street corridor pretty well. And the others, 10, 11, 16 etc.

It wouldn't be worthwhile putting deckers on the 49 to provide extra seats on a small portion of the route, especially when new single deckers were bought to supplement the route just a couple of years ago. But then again, speculate to accumulate is what saw Lothian's share of the midlothian market explode in size..

I wonder whether the (further) delays in the trams down Leith Walk may have an affect?

The 49 may be busier if it had a more direct route from Leith to Portobello - the route around Lochend is painfully slow

 

[Blindtraveler]

still faster than the 21 though! On paper theres 2 minutes in it, in practice its anything up to 10 and with the 49s at every 15 mins Mon-Sat and not all of the route being popular a variation with 2 an hour plus the 129 using current route and 2 using a faster one would male sense to me.

 

[overthewater]

Enjoy your need green bus company...

http://www.eastlothianbuses.com/

 

[Eng274]

Enjoy your need green bus company...

http://www.eastlothianbuses.com/

Excellent! Its been years since a proper bus route went down Regent Road, avoiding the logjam that is St Andrews Square/London Road! The 26 and 85/86 ran that way many many moons ago.

I see the 113 will adopt a zonal system much like First's Haddington/Dunbar services. Will still be a bargain compared to First's fares.

 

[overthewater]

First are very short of buses and drives, thus service 18 and 92 will be operated on hire to first by Lothian buses, until the end of the week....

Plenty of pic appearing on the net.