First South West (Kernow & Buses of Somerset)

[Busaholic]

And Sprinter 54112 is off the road due to drinking oil I'm told, while 54111 is still in Wales awaiting a replacement gearbox.

How long before there's a double decker on the Mousehole again? I'd like to see an open topper.

 

[Sir Felix Pole]

Dartmoor Explorer liveried decker sat down on Callington Rd, Tavistock this a.m. causing traffic mayhem with HGVs unable to get past due to parked cars. Didn't get the number, but a sorry end to the whole fiasco of this summer.

 

[Goldfish62]

How long before a d/d on the Mousehole again? I'd like to see an open topper.

Anytime soon I reckon!

Open topper wouldn't be a good idea - low trees along Ropewalk.

 

[richw]

Dartmoor Explorer liveried decker sat down on Callington Rd, Tavistock this a.m. causing traffic mayhem with HGVs unable to get past due to parked cars. Didn't get the number, but a sorry end to the whole fiasco of this summer.

Nothing to do with the Dartmoor Explorer. That would have been on DSC001 okehampton to duchy college. Will have been 37155 as pic was posted on Firstbus enthusiasts Facebook group when it was delivered to Winkleigh last week with the caption “a quick cool down”

 

[SW Buses]

A PDF version of the updates Buses of Somerset timetable book is now on the First website - https://www.firstbus.co.uk/sites/default/files/public/node_images/Buses of Somerset bus times from 3 September 2023.pdf

I hasn’t appreciated the 36 min headway on Saturdays 21…

 

[richw]

A PDF version of the updates Buses of Somerset timetable book is now on the First website - https://www.firstbus.co.uk/sites/default/files/public/node_images/Buses of Somerset bus times from 3 September 2023.pdf

I hasn’t appreciated the 36 min headway on Saturdays 21…

Presumably 36 headway saves a bus over 30 mins, but 45 wouldn’t work for vehicle requirements

 

[JKP]

Presumably 36 headway saves a bus over 30 mins, but 45 wouldn’t work for vehicle requirements

It becomes a 45 minute frequency late Saturday afternoons though.

Also note that South West Coaches are not named on the Dorset 4 route.

 

[Lynford1976]

Also note that South West Coaches are not named on the Dorset 4 route.

Why would they be?

 

[Paperyostrich]

It becomes a 45 minute frequency late Saturday afternoons though.

Also note that South West Coaches are not named on the Dorset 4 route.

They wouldn't be considering the whole route is operated by Buses of Somerset

 

[JKP]

They wouldn't be considering the whole route is operated by Buses of Somerset

Sorry, my mistake, I somehow thought South West Coaches operated this route.

 

[farwest]

I got an Enviro 200 on the 16 from Penzance the other day. It was an ex First Kernow Council owned vehicle once green and now red. The display inside was still saying First Kernow and scrolling through the old ticket information.
Perhaps they are all like this and I am even more unobservant than I thought!!

 

[richw]

I got an Enviro 200 on the 16 from Penzance the other day. It was an ex First Kernow Council owned vehicle once green and now red. The display inside was still saying First Kernow and scrolling through the old ticket information.
Perhaps they are all like this and I am even more unobservant than I thought!!

Most have black tape over the scrolling message. But they all still have the first kernow message scrolling under the tape.

 

[Goldfish62]

Most have black tape over the scrolling message. But they all still have the first kernow message scrolling under the tape.

Well they'll have to be untaped and fully operational with next stop announcements reinstated by October 2025!

 

[83G/84D]

Three Sprinters are running on the Mousehole today, only the second time this has happened as far as I can ascertain.

 

[Goldfish62]

Three Sprinters are running on the Mousehole today, only the second time this has happened as far as I can ascertain.

Yes, 54112 re-entered service around 10:00 this morning.

Meanwhile, still awaiting the arrival of 54111.

 

[Busaholic]

Three Sprinters are running on the Mousehole today, only the second time this has happened as far as I can ascertain.

What's more, I saw one on Ross Bridge going to Mousehole mid afternoon whose seats were almost all occupied - hope all concerned knew next stop was Newlyn Bridge!

 

[Goldfish62]

What's more, I saw one on Ross Bridge going to Mousehole mid afternoon whose seats were almost all occupied - hope all concerned knew next stop was Newlyn Bridge!

What about the three stops in between (Jubilee Pool, Wherrytown, Art Gallery)?

One I was on the other a couple actually got off at the pool having travelled from the bus station!

 

[Busaholic]

What about the three stops in between (Jubilee Pool, Wherrytown, Art Gallery)?

One I was on the other a couple actually got off at the pool having travelled from the bus station!

I thought the Pool stop was more a theoretical one than actual, rather like the one not on the other side! Meant to say Art Gallery rather than Newlyn Bridge, reflecting the direction of travel. Can't say I've spotted a Wherrytown stop, was that introduced with the 5A, which has lousy loadings every time I see it? What a waste of a larger single decker! Wonder whether that couple realised the bus wouldn't be going anywhere near Greenmarket, so decided to leg it up Chapel Street.

 

[Goldfish62]

I thought the Pool stop was more a theoretical one than actual, rather like the one not on the other side! Meant to say Art Gallery rather than Newlyn Bridge, reflecting the direction of travel. Can't say I've spotted a Wherrytown stop, was that introduced with the 5A, which has lousy loadings every time I see it? What a waste of a larger single decker! Wonder whether that couple realised the bus wouldn't be going anywhere near Greenmarket, so decided to leg it up Chapel Street.

They may very well have done!

Both sides of the road at the Jubilee Pool now have stop flags and are regularly used.

As for the Wherrytown stops, they've been there since the start of time! Well, at least since before my childhood, which was a fair time ago now! Again, regularly used stops, particularly for the Co-op and Lidl.

 

[83G/84D]

Open top 37058 has returned from Somerset and is on the Lands End Coaster route today along with Falmouth Coaster 32179.
Usual delays and cancellations on the T1/T2 this afternoon with no advice on social media from the company. The service has been terrible this summer, just the usual excuses of roadworks and traffic delays and few apologies.

 

[Busaholic]

They may very well have done!

Both sides of the road at the Jubilee Pool now have stop flags and are regularly used.

As for the Wherrytown stops, they've been there since the start of time! Well, at least since before my childhood, which was a fair time ago now! Again, regularly used stops, particularly for the Co-op and Lidl.

I must keep my eyes open more. I remember Wherrytown stops but thought they went when Alexandra Road ceased to be served on a regular basis when the 5 got diverted via Newlyn Coombe. Unfortunately for me, I could only contemplate travel by bus now accompanied by a minder. It's been about three years now, same with trains.


open. All

 

[MasterSpenny]

Video credit to Coach & Bus Week, but here is a video of the First Kernow Land End Coaster
(Title shows Part 1, so will post part 2 when it’s uploaded.)

As promised here is part two, credit also to Coach & Bus Week

 

[Accelerator59]

37241 on Tinner services this afternoon.

 

[farwest]

I saw the Exmoor coaster heading to Land's end from Penzance this afternoon at 1330.

 

[Accelerator59]

I saw the Exmoor coaster heading to Land end from Penzance this afternoon at 1330.

It was mentioned that 37058 had returned to Kernow, so it was probably that one you saw today.

 

[LAIRA]

Truronian appear to have a new coach 24212 BF73CCD working Rail Replacement in Plymouth today. Also present were 24274 BF21EOJ 53862 20561 20805.

 

[Goldfish62]

Truronian appear to have a new coach 24212 BF73CCD working Rail Replacement in Plymouth today. Also present were 24274 BF21EOJ 53862 20561 20805.

Yes, it was delivered a couple of weeks ago. Mercedes Tourismo.

 

[Snozzel]

Yes, it was delivered a couple of weeks ago. Mercedes Tourismo.

I thought no new diesel vehicles were being purchased after 2022?

 

[DaveLondon]

I thought no new diesel vehicles were being purchased after 2022?

I don't think that was ever said in relation to coaches. The only widely available electric coaches are Yutong and the info at the time referred to diesel Volvos being imminent.

 

[Goldfish62]

I don't think that was ever said in relation to coaches. The only widely available electric coaches are Yutong and the info at the time referred to diesel Volvos being imminent.

Correct. No more new diesel *buses*. Same as National Express.

It's not as if First is in need of a great quantity of coaches anyway.