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overthewater

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17th April090 Glasgow - EdinburghSome trips diverted via Edinburgh Airport (awaiting the trips to upload to the Flix site for more details)
17th April091 Glasgow - AberdeenExtended to Glasgow Airport on some trips (awaiting the trips to upload to the Flix site for more details)
17th April093 Glasgow - Inverness16:45 trip from Inverness has minor retimings
17th April094 Edinburgh - InvernessRetimings. Now serves Ingliston P&R instead of Halbeath P&R


Resources can make more money elsewhere I guess. Didn't help too that because it was single manned, you had to account for a break at a service station which of course slows down the overall journey.

Its clear the services are not going to plan. On all the times Ive used them its been filled with foreign passengers. I dare say brand recognition is what helps them acquire their custom. The fact 094 will not ever stop at Halbeath now means there given up trying to get any local passengers. The 092 is nightmare as there goes down by Airport and then also goes via Broxden why would you use this service going to Dundee, Ive seen it happen if there delays going into Broxden roundabout 15-20mins wasted, talk about a short cut. You properly quicker taking the X54...

When it comes to Service 90 I agree they need to trying something else, I still think it should have a pick up around Sighthill For Glasgow, most coaches go that way anyways.
 
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londonteacher

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Why do Flixbus insist on seat reservations where as National Express is a free for all apart from the few front seats? I can see the benefits of both but I know on the trains I much prefer to choose my own seat.
They don’t. You don’t have to purchase a reservation and you will just be allocated a seat. If you want to choose then you pay.
 

johncrossley

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They don’t. You don’t have to purchase a reservation and you will just be allocated a seat. If you want to choose then you pay.

The problem is that they give you a seat that you don't like. So people end up sitting somewhere else and have to move when someone with the reservation for that seat comes along.
 

JonathanH

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The problem is that they give you a seat that you don't like. So people end up sitting somewhere else and have to move when someone with the reservation for that seat comes along.
I think the idea is that someone will then buy a reservation the next time.

I have often ended up given a seat at the back when not reserving, knowing that by not paying up I run this risk. That is a trade off a passenger needs to consider when deciding not to pay for a reservation.

It is possible to run through the booking process nearer the travel date to see which seats are still unreserved if wanting to attempt sitting in a different seat.
 

megabusser

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Partially covered above, but more details on the coverage of Glasgow Airport.

“Services between Aberdeen, Dundee, Perth, Stirling and Glasgow Airport will be available eight times a day from 17 April.”

Source: https://www.glasgowworld.com/news/g...-major-scottish-cities-from-under-ps5-5084562

Obviously Glasgow Airport is less popular than Edinburgh these days, but surprising that they haven’t extended any Glasgow - Edinburgh services to Glasgow Airport. Seems like a bit of a gap in the market potentially?
 

erskinebus

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The only notable exclusivity that GLA has over EDI is the Emirates A380, but there'll be less draw for that now that Emirates have returned to EDI, now with the A350. I think it's more that these services are likely run by McGill's Inchinnan depot (a stone's throw from GLA), so having them in service - even a couple of passengers - reduces the cost of dead running.
 

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The only notable exclusivity that GLA has over EDI is the Emirates A380, but there'll be less draw for that now that Emirates have returned to EDI, now with the A350. I think it's more that these services are likely run by McGill's Inchinnan depot (a stone's throw from GLA), so having them in service - even a couple of passengers - reduces the cost of dead running.

I suspect you’re right about the Inchinnnan depot being a big part of the logic here. Is the 090 Glasgow - Edinburgh services run out of Livingston rather than Inchinnan? I suppose that would explain it if so.

(Incidentally, prefixing service numbers with leading 0s just looks odd!).
 

DJames

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Cardiff stop moves from Lloyd George Avenue/Herbert Street to the old Megabus stop at Friary Gardens (a significantly better location for passengers, though the coaches Flix use are quite different to Megabus so it will be interesting to see how the stops cope). Effective 13th April.

There's no real difference compared to what the Megabus services were using towards the end, in fact a few of the Flixbus operators were running Megabus services before the network shut down. I don't recall hearing of any issues with the Cardiff stop from drivers.
 

route101

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Partially covered above, but more details on the coverage of Glasgow Airport.

“Services between Aberdeen, Dundee, Perth, Stirling and Glasgow Airport will be available eight times a day from 17 April.”

Source: https://www.glasgowworld.com/news/g...-major-scottish-cities-from-under-ps5-5084562

Obviously Glasgow Airport is less popular than Edinburgh these days, but surprising that they haven’t extended any Glasgow - Edinburgh services to Glasgow Airport. Seems like a bit of a gap in the market potentiall

The only notable exclusivity that GLA has over EDI is the Emirates A380, but there'll be less draw for that now that Emirates have returned to EDI, now with the A350. I think it's more that these services are likely run by McGill's Inchinnan depot (a stone's throw from GLA), so having them in service - even a couple of passengers - reduces the cost of dead running.
Yes, can't see many going onto Glasgow Airport as Glasgow does not really have USP now when it comes to routes.
 

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The only notable exclusivity that GLA has over EDI is the Emirates A380, but there'll be less draw for that now that Emirates have returned to EDI, now with the A350. I think it's more that these services are likely run by McGill's Inchinnan depot (a stone's throw from GLA), so having them in service - even a couple of passengers - reduces the cost of dead running.
Someone may be able to advise otherwise but I don't think it's just Inchinnan trips which are serving the Airport. Yes it's being used sometimes to reduce dead mileage the but some other trips look to be normally extended and evening journeys were retimed to take into account some of the extensions. I believe there to also be some instances of buses on the 091 still running dead from the depot to Glasgow (06:15/07:15 from Glasgow and 22:00 from Aberdeen).

While Glasgow Airport may not have much exclusivity, there are 8 million passengers per year (according to latest Civil Aviation Authority figures) so people are using the airport. Exclusive routes isn't always why people choose to use certain airports, sometimes people prefer the service from a certain airport, or the fares may be cheaper or one of many other reasons. The Airport can be served at a seemingly minimal cost and given the dismal public transport links currently from the airport, perhaps this will help the Airport grow and give Flix some passengers and give them a USP on the route. All at no cost to existing passengers (which Edinburgh would be).


I suspect you’re right about the Inchinnnan depot being a big part of the logic here. Is the 090 Glasgow - Edinburgh services run out of Livingston rather than Inchinnan? I suppose that would explain it if so.
I believe it's shared between Inchinnan and Livingston and this is something that they should do. Same for the 093 Inverness service, 2 buses each day on that seem to be ran by Inchinnan and run dead to/from but maybe the 091 is just a small trial to see if it's worthwhile.

There's no real difference compared to what the Megabus services were using towards the end, in fact a few of the Flixbus operators were running Megabus services before the network shut down. I don't recall hearing of any issues with the Cardiff stop from drivers.
Megabus were still using interdeckers which of course had front loading for wheelchair users and the lockers lifted up. I know Megabus drivers that I have spoken to have said about issues with coaches that Watts were using at one point because the lockers were flaps rather than rising lockers (if that makes sense), so they had to park in the middle of the stand else the locker wouldnt hit the bus shelter and not open.

Megabus I think also had less buses per day than Flix. Flix has 58 services per day either departing or terminating at the stop. It's a lot and it's set to grow slightly in June as well (And maybe grow more depending on any currently unannounced partnerships or enhancements)
 

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I suppose with the services to Glasgow Airport, its the timings that can be awkward as its not frequent. Either you wait up to a few hours or just jump into Glasgow and change after your flight. There is a risk of services getting stuck in traffic between Glasgow Buchanan Bus Station and Glasgow Airport.
 

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Can somebody advise which operator works on route 023 please. Took a pic today of a 25 plate Yutong but can't find any info on it. Pic here if interested:


Any help appreciated...
023 is operated by Belle Vue, Whippets, Hearns and Chalfont.

The bus in your photo is operated by Belle Vue.
 

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