Flybe 2.0 has gone into administration

[Idiotic]

Source: Flybe Twitter

On 28 Jan 23 David Pike & Mike Pink were appointed Joint Administrators of Flybe Limited. Flybe has now ceased trading. All Flybe flights from & to the UK are cancelled & will not be rescheduled. Further information can be found @ http://flybe.com & http://caa.co.uk/news

Sad to report that Flybe has gone bust again. All flights cancelled and passengers advised not to go to the airport.

Such a shame as I found them pretty decent this time round with such a good bunch of crew! Thoughts are with the staff.

 

[KashmireHawker]

I would be astounded if the brand returned for a 3rd time.

On 28 January 2023, the High Court appointed David Pike and Mike Pink as Joint Administrators of Flybe Limited (“Flybe”).

Flybe has now ceased trading and all flights from and to the UK operated by Flybe have been cancelled and will not be rescheduled.

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www.flybe.com

 

[357]

I didn't even know they had reopened to be honest

 

[Butts]

Fond memories of when they were in their prime.

Embraer's "train slaying" all over the UK with excellent fares.

Even better the wonderful rewards scheme they had which enabled me visit Orkney, Shetland and a lot of the Hebridean Islands for a song.

Standby for Loganair already stratospheric fares to climb even higher

 

[Starmill]

I did think it was a little bit odd for the rebooted operation to use the old brand. Did the brand really have value with customers? Either way it is a terrible shame for the workers involved.

 

[Stathern Jc]

It was mentioned on the "Today" programme this morning.
And the BBC News website:

Flybe: Regional carrier ceases trading and cancels all flights

Around 2,500 passengers due to travel with Flybe on Saturday are told not to go to the airport.

www.bbc.co.uk

Airline Flybe has cancelled all flights to and from the UK after going into administration.
A statement on the airline's website said it had "ceased trading" and told any passengers expecting to travel with it not to go to the airport.
It added that it would not be able to help passengers arrange alternative flights.

Had wondered if they would have developed further to offer other alternatives to London from INV at lower prices than Loganair.
Was happy to use the original Flybe when I needed to travel South more frequently, especially with their credit card points scheme.

 

[Butts]

It was mentioned on the "Today" programme this morning.
And the BBC News website:

Flybe: Regional carrier ceases trading and cancels all flights

Around 2,500 passengers due to travel with Flybe on Saturday are told not to go to the airport.

www.bbc.co.uk

Had wondered if they would have developed further to offer other alternatives to London from INV at lower prices than Loganair.
Was happy to use the original Flybe when I needed to travel South more frequently, especially with their credit card points scheme.

BA are normally cheaper than Loganair and Easyjet fly to a few places from INV.

 

[Stathern Jc]

BA are normally cheaper than Loganair and Easyjet fly to a few places from INV.

BA to Heathrow.
EasyJet to Luton and Gatwick, and a flight to Bristol most days, with one on summer Saturdays last year to Newquay.
Beyond the Islands, Loganair serve Belfast and Birmingham once a day, and Manchester twice a day. (maybe weekend variations)

About 15 years ago Ryanair had 3 flights a week to East Midlands which I found useful but obviously didn't make it worth their while, now it's just the late evening postal flights that go there.

 

[CC 72100]

Didn't the new version of Flybe get 'let down' in the late arrival of leased aircraft, which meant they had to reduce their schedule?

I'm not entirely surprised. I just don't see how an airline in the market that Flybe operates can survive. When you are serving airports that are also used by the 'big boys', you run the risk of finding yourself up against them after building up the market and they can do so with far greater marketing resources and the ability to price dump using the power of higher volumes.

For all the comments as to way LoganAir are so expensive; well maybe that's the only way they can survive? Because cheap regional flights clearly hasn't worked as a business model.

 

[cactustwirly]

BA are normally cheaper than Loganair and Easyjet fly to a few places from INV.

Indeed, BA are similarly priced to easyJet these days with basic fares starting from £40.
And you get 2x cabin bags included in the fare

 

[Howardh]

Shame, there well be pax who booked on the original flybe who lost their money, and lose it now on this reincarnation to add to all those job losses Why re-name a failed company the same? Think I misses a bullet. yesterday was looking at Laganair flights to Inverness and Shetland for the longest day. Glad I didn't book - at their prices!

After the first failure, I think Easyjet took their slots to the Channel Islands and kept them; so flybe lost out there. If there's a flybe 3.0, no-one will touch them with a bargepole. Better if Easyjet or Ryanair took it all over.

 

[Techniquest]

Flybe - gone into Administration this morning just 9 months after relaunching.

I would be astounded if the brand returned for a 3rd time.

Oh crikey, that's a shame. Only recently I had been planning to use the 'new' Flybe on some adventures. I am however very glad I didn't book anything now!

 

[Peter Mugridge]

LNER are offering free carriage to stranded FlyBe passengers.

Good move.

 

[DavidGrain]

Flybe

I thought last year that the new company was making a mistake in using the old company name. After all it was not for nothing that they were known as Fly May Be.

I first flew with Flybe when they were Jersey Aviation in a plane I called the Flying Portacabin (Shorts 360). They changed their name several times before becoming Flybe.

 

[dk1]

LNER are offering free carriage to stranded FlyBe passengers.

Good move.

Nothing from Avanti yet? (Joke)

 

[Towers]

Flybe

I thought last year that the new company was making a mistake in using the old company name. After all it was not for nothing that they were known as Fly May Be.

I first flew with Flybe when they were Jersey Aviation in a plane I called the Flying Portacabin (Shorts 360). They changed their name several times before becoming Flybe.

I guess they considered that the brand goodwill outweighed the negativity? That or they just didn't want to spend the £££ on rebranding everything!

 

[swt_passenger]

LNER are offering free carriage to stranded FlyBe passengers.

Good move.

I read that as “a free carriage”. Maybe a Mk4 without a loco?

 

[Titfield]

Shame, there well be pax who booked on the original flybe who lost their money, and lose it now on this reincarnation to add to all those job losses

When the original Flybe went bust it dragged down the pension scheme of a number of smaller airlines who were in a "consortium" pension scheme.

 

[Butts]

Shame, there well be pax who booked on the original flybe who lost their money, and lose it now on this reincarnation to add to all those job losses Why re-name a failed company the same? Think I misses a bullet. yesterday was looking at Laganair flights to Inverness and Shetland for the longest day. Glad I didn't book - at their prices!

After the first failure, I think Easyjet took their slots to the Channel Islands and kept them; so flybe lost out there. If there's a flybe 3.0, no-one will touch them with a bargepole. Better if Easyjet or Ryanair took it all over.

I had 5 Flights booked on the original when they went bust (mixture of Debit /Credit Card payments) and got all the money back via chargebacks. I would have thought most people would be covered this way ?

 

[Irascible]

According to someone who actually worked there ( and quit in December so obviously saw this coming ), main issue was just not being able to locate enough aircraft! I wonder if that was really "not being able to locate enough affordable aircraft".

 

[ld0595]

For anyone who has kept up with developments since they relaunched, it's definitely not a surprise. I'm frankly amazed they lasted as long as they did.

 

[YorkshireBear]

For anyone who has kept up with developments since they relaunched, it's definitely not a surprise. I'm frankly amazed they lasted as long as they did.

My thoughts exactly. Service has been plagued by problems since the beginning. They also went after strange routes, why try compete on LHR to AMS for example.

 

[Tetchytyke]

They were supposed to be flying here from Heathrow and Belfast but, just over two weeks before the routes started (UK261 innit), they pulled the flights as "they didn't have enough aircraft".

Flights to Newcastle from, er, Heathrow and Belfast, were launched (having not previously been proposed) the day they pulled out here.

So good riddance to bad rubbish.

I didn't give them long, and they lasted longer than I expected, but anyone who didn't buy with a credit card was naive.

Standby for Loganair already stratospheric fares to climb even higher

From here, Loganair are pricey but you get a 15kg hold bag thrown in, and a coffee and a biscuit.

IME once you add hold luggage, or even a large cabin bag, there's usually bugger all difference between Loganair and EasyJet.

I like Loganair being a full service airline, but they do make themselves look more expensive than they are by not following the budget airline pricing model.

The elephant in the room for all regional airlines is EasyJet, who can and do throw an A320 at any route which becomes successful. That's business, but it makes it hard.

 

[cactustwirly]

They were supposed to be flying here from Heathrow and Belfast but, just over two weeks before the routes started (UK261 innit), they pulled the flights as "they didn't have enough aircraft".

Flights to Newcastle from, er, Heathrow and Belfast, were launched (having not previously been proposed) the day they pulled out here.

So good riddance to bad rubbish.

I didn't give them long, and they lasted longer than I expected, but anyone who didn't buy with a credit card was naive.



From here, Loganair are pricey but you get a 15kg hold bag thrown in, and a coffee and a biscuit.

IME once you add hold luggage, or even a large cabin bag, there's usually bugger all difference between Loganair and EasyJet.

I like Loganair being a full service airline, but they do make themselves look more expensive than they are by not following the budget airline pricing model.

The elephant in the room for all regional airlines is EasyJet, who can and do throw an A320 at any route which becomes successful. That's business, but it makes it hard.

That's exactly why Flybe failed, there's no way they can compete against easyJet and their A320s. Guessing they nabbed the profitable routes when the original Flybe collapsed

 

[edwin_m]

Loganair are pricey but you get a 15kg hold bag thrown in

Literally?

 

[jon0844]

Literally?

If you want it placed on a belt and loaded with care, it's £50...!

(and from my days at Stansted watching them load or unload bags on Ryanair planes, I think you can absolutely say they literally throw the bags - and seemingly with a smile on their face because they know they're being watched!)

 

[Tetchytyke]

Literally?

At Manchester? Always

 

[WestCoast]

I flew Flybe 2.0 a couple of times Glasgow to Birmingham for work last autumn but both flights were subcontracted to a very cramped and elderly ATR operated by a Spanish airline (Swift Air). There was nothing particularly good or different about the experience that would make me fly them over easyJet, especially as they also charged for a full size carry on bag.

I like Loganair being a full service airline, but they do make themselves look more expensive than they are by not following the budget airline pricing model.

Logan is simply operating as a classic regional airline rather than a budget airline, Flybe is solid evidence that airlines can't balance the books selling dirt cheap tickets on smaller planes operating thinner routes. At the moment on a flight from say Glasgow to Southampton the first roughly £20-£25 is taken up in departure tax and airport/handling fees. Logan is regularly selling tickets for £79 on the aformetioned routes so in reality you are paying about £59 inc baggage to the airline which isn't bad at all when you consider the alternatives for rail, road, flying to London or a combination.

 

[Tetchytyke]

Logan is regularly selling tickets for £79 on the aformetioned routes so in reality you are paying about £59 inc baggage to the airline which isn't bad at all when you consider the alternatives for rail, road, flying to London or a combination.

I agree, but my point was more that they appear a lot more expensive than EasyJet on UK regional flights because they don't separate out the hold luggage. IME when travelling off the rock there's usually not much between Loganair and EasyJet when I take a hold bag, or even a sensibly sized cabin bag. But they have a reputation here for being expensive because their headline fare is higher.

(Also worth noting that when I don't need to take a bag they actually are more expensive!)

 

[Butts]

I agree, but my point was more that they appear a lot more expensive than EasyJet on UK regional flights because they don't separate out the hold luggage. IME when travelling off the rock there's usually not much between Loganair and EasyJet when I take a hold bag, or even a sensibly sized cabin bag. But they have a reputation here for being expensive because their headline fare is higher.

(Also worth noting that when I don't need to take a bag they actually are more expensive!)

To be fair Eastern Airways manage to make Loganair look cheap whenever I've cast an eye over their fares.

Bring back BMI Baby