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Someone really squeezed for cash is probably not buying branded breakfast cereals. The supermarket own brands will be cheaper than the branded stuff, even from Home Bargains and B&M, and often not much lower quality. (Supermarket own brand "Wheat Biscuits" are basically indistinguishable from Weetabix these days)
I’m fortunate to not be squeezed for cash but even so I have been buying supermarket own branded breakfast cereals for years. I can’t see any sense in paying the high prices for Kellogg’s etc when some of the supermarket branded breakfast cereals are equally as good often for only half the price. It’s all personal taste but you do learn from experience which are better than others and a bit of shopping around can help. For example I really like Sainsbury’s, Waitrose and Asda equivalent of Weetabix but do not like Co-op or Tesco. For cornflakes I find Co-op to be very good but I don’t like Sainsbury’s very much.

That’s just using breakfast cereals as an example but you do get to know through experience how much own branded food items can vary and which are better than others. Even shopping at somewhere like Waitrose, often seen as expensive, you can get some excellent quality own branded items at a very reasonable price. Yesterday I was in my local small Co-op and I got some cream crackers. The Co-op ones were 59p a packet yet on the same shelf at the side of them Jacobs were £1.29. The Co-op cream crackers are quite good and certainly Jacobs are not worth more than twice the price.
 
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Island Delight Vegetable Jamaican Pattie at Sainsbury’s up from 90p. to £1.05. I make that over 16%.
 

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Island Delight Vegetable Jamaican Pattie at Sainsbury’s up from 90p. to £1.05. I make that over 16%.
When did they go up to £1.05? And is that at a Sainsbury's Local, which tend to be slightly more expensive.

I've got them as 95p at main Sainsbury's / Morrison's or £1 at Iceland.
 

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When did they go up to £1.05? And is that at a Sainsbury's Local, which tend to be slightly more expensive.

I've got them as 95p at main Sainsbury's / Morrison's or £1 at Iceland.

I think they were still 90p. around a week ago: certainly they still were when I last bought one a fortnight or so ago. It is a Sainsburys’s Local, but it still used to be cheaper than the Co-op in the same town where they were 95 p.
 

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Some supermarkets are doing very good offers albeit they've raised the price of individual products.
 

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Honeydew Melons in Sainsburys have gone up from 95p in March to £1.29 when I went in this week, nearly 36% increase. However, it's still a decrease on the £1.39 it was last year. I noticed it however has an "Aldi Price Match" sticker on the shelf tag next to it. It was also £1.29 in Tesco, also with an "Aldi Price Match" sticker; I'm sure last year Tesco were charging circa £1.
 

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Absolutely. One would have hoped for some return to near normality after the last two years but Putin had other ideas.

I wonder if there could be a scheme for people to let out their gardens to others as allotments free of charge. The gain for the owners would be someone else looking after the garden.
 

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Absolutely. One would have hoped for some return to near normality after the last two years but Putin had other ideas.

I wonder if there could be a scheme for people to let out their gardens to others as allotments free of charge. The gain for the owners would be someone else looking after the garden.
There's nothing to stop anyone doing this by private arrangement, I suppose. There would have to be an appropriate written agreement in place, though - you wouldn't want to rent a garden then find the agreement terminated just as your prized marrows are ripening.

Regarding food prices, I am going to make a serious attempt to grow some of my own veg this year in an effort to reduce the amount I spend in the shops. I left it rather too late to get started last year, but if I can get a decent crop of tomatoes, salad leaves and peppers etc., it'll save on having to buy them.
 

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Haslet in my local butchers has increased by 20p. Luckily, my breakfast bap hasn't increased so far.

The Mem has been growing her own veg for many years. Initially using pots or grow bags, but now we've got some raised beds instead.
 

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Some supermarkets are doing very good offers albeit they've raised the price of individual products.
I find I'm hunting down more and more special offers and BOGOF-style reductions these days and stocking up at the cheaper prices where I can.
Domestos is a case in point. Waitrose have raised the price from £1 to £1.25 in recent weeks. Iceland are individually pricing at £1.25 - but they currently have a 2 for £2 offer on .....

Grow-your-own - I'm not sure how cost effective this is unless you're into it in a big way. By the time you've purchased compost / grow bags, seeds / plants, pots and tubs, secured a water supply for the upcoming drought and hope the wretched tomatoes will ripen and the sprouts won't be infested with bugs ...... I have a horrible suspicion Aldi is the cheaper option.
 

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I also stock up when things are cheap, although you have to watch in case you fill your bag up with stuff saving 10p. on a £2 price and don’t have room to carry the 30p. off £1.50. Currently I am loading up with oatcakes: Morrison’s have them at £1 instead of £1.45.
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I find I'm hunting down more and more special offers and BOGOF-style reductions these days and stocking up at the cheaper prices where I can.
Domestos is a case in point. Waitrose have raised the price from £1 to £1.25 in recent weeks. Iceland are individually pricing at £1.25 - but they currently have a 2 for £2 offer on .....

Grow-your-own - I'm not sure how cost effective this is unless you're into it in a big way. By the time you've purchased compost / grow bags, seeds / plants, pots and tubs, secured a water supply for the upcoming drought and hope the wretched tomatoes will ripen and the sprouts won't be infested with bugs ...... I have a horrible suspicion Aldi is the cheaper option

I also stock up when things are cheap, although you have to watch in case you fill your bag up with stuff saving 10p. on a £2 price and don’t have room to carry the 30p. off £1.50. Currently I am loading up with oatcakes: Morrison’s have them at £1 instead of £1.45.

Tesco, and perhaps others, have regular yo-yo prices on certain items. That is it is on offer for a fortnight, then it goes to a higher price for a slightly longer period, then the offer returns for a fortnight and so on. Basically just keep an eye on their website where they give the end date for the offers. The offers generally end on Tuesday.
 

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I'm not sure if this is related to increasing prices, or if it's simply a rip-off retailer, but when driving me home last night my brother stopped off at a 24 garage for fuel. I needed milk, and as it was approaching midnight the options were limited. I heard him grumble about the diesel price, but went I went into the shop I was utterly shocked to see that a 2-litre bottle of milk was priced at £1.99! The store was a Spar when it opened and I don't recall being prices being any higher than any other convenience store, but it has since become a Londis.

I spotted a pint carton that had been reduced to 40p and bought that instead (it was only to ensure I had enough milk for my coffee this morning) - I wouldn't have bothered otherwise.

I often complain about the prices in my local village shops being high compared to supermarkets (currently £1.60 - up recently from £1.50), but that's more or less standard and I'm used to it.
 

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My village shop put milk up from 1 30 to 1 90 about 2 weeks ago
 

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My village shop put milk up from 1 30 to 1 90 about 2 weeks ago
In news articles today, regarding the rather splendid profits achieved by Tesco, there is mention of a 36% increase in milk prices recently passed on by the milk processors.
 

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In news articles today, regarding the rather splendid profits achieved by Tesco, there is mention of a 36% increase in milk prices recently passed on by the milk processors.
I have also noticed milk prices go up, both in the local shops and the supermarkets.

I wonder how much of the 36% increase is reaching the farmers, though? I guess a chunk of it is to cover the increase fuel costs collecting the milk from the farms, and then distributing it to the shops.
 

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I have also noticed milk prices go up, both in the local shops and the supermarkets.

I wonder how much of the 36% increase is reaching the farmers, though? I guess a chunk of it is to cover the increase fuel costs collecting the milk from the farms, and then distributing it to the shops.
Prices of inputs such as feed, fertilizer, pesticides, diesel to fuel machinery, etc. have all increased, plus there's a shortage of farm labour.
 

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I have also noticed milk prices go up, both in the local shops and the supermarkets.

I wonder how much of the 36% increase is reaching the farmers, though? I guess a chunk of it is to cover the increase fuel costs collecting the milk from the farms, and then distributing it to the shops.
That would depend on where the increased costs have arisen. It may be that workers in the distribution chain or processors staff have had a pay rise in line with inflation and other costs.
 

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Soz everyone, no one told me, I didn't know, I did know but didn't understand, I wasn't there, I was there but walked in without knowing:

The actual quote regarding milk prices was:
However, products that require a lot of energy to produce are experiencing the highest cost pressures. Tesco accepted a 20% cost price increase in milk from its suppliers less than two weeks ago. However, the UK's largest dairy Arla recently warned that with cost increases of some 36%, farmers faced tough cost challenges.

So not quite 'a 36% increase in milk prices recently passed on by the milk processors'.

Soz, soz, soz, I resign, should I resign, why would I resign, I have important work to do here, I must stay.

The full stories:
Tesco vows to rein in prices as profits treble
I haven't quoted the full article, just the bit relevant to cow juice prices.

Dairy giant Arla warns of supply issues unless farmers paid more
The UK's largest dairy has warned milk supplies could be under threat unless its farmers are paid more.
The managing director of Arla Foods said costs are increasing at rates never seen before and that farmers can no longer cover their expenses.
"Because of the recent crisis, feed, fuel and fertiliser have rocketed and therefore cashflow on the farm is negative," said Ash Amirahmadi.
He added farmers are producing less milk as a result of the higher costs.
"UK dairy farmers have been producing more for about the last seven to eight years but it's now going the other way," Mr Amirahmadi told the BBC.
"In February, they produced 2% less and in March it's 4%."
With cost increases of some 36%, he warned farmers are facing some hard decisions and that they need confidence to carry on producing.
And that means securing a higher price from Arla's customers - the supermarkets.
"The most important thing now is that we put our arm around the farmers…and pay our farmers more to cover their costs to make sure the milk is flowing, " said Mr Amirahmadi.
Arla Foods is the fifth biggest dairy company in the world and the largest supplier of fresh milk and cream in the UK. The co-operative has 2,100 dairy farmers in the UK and 8,950 across Europe.
David Christensen, an Arla dairy farmer based in Oxfordshire, said he had "never experienced conditions like this in 30 years" of working in the industry.
His fertiliser bill has jumped from £350 to £900 a tonne and his fuel has more than doubled - cost increases he won't be able to absorb after the summer.
"There's no doubt, if the economics don't stack up one of the options is to scale back production...milk prices need to go up. It's no longer sustainable," he said.
The boss of Arla said the price of milk in the shops is 7% lower now than it was 10 years ago.
But the price consumers pay is different to the prices which farmers receive to produce it.
For farmers the break even price is key. This includes any extra income and government subsidies.
Over the years, the industry has kept costs down by becoming more efficient and many supermarkets have direct contracts with farmers based on their own cost of production models to try to give them a fairer deal.
But industry sources have said even these so-called aligned contracts are failing to keep up with sky rocketing costs.
Mr Amirahmadi's comments come as his business unveiled a five-year plan to grow and future proof the business at the same time it faces pressure from surges in inflation.
Arla believes increasing global demand for dairy is an opportunity for farmers in the UK. The prices paid to farmers abroad are now 15% higher than the prices paid to farmers here.
It's already trialling the export of fresh British milk for processing at its European sites which is then sold on international markets.
The dairy giant is the first producer to consider doing this at scale.
"The good news here for farmers and actually the British dairy industry is that the opportunities of export give farmers more options and therefore it means that the whole of the UK dairy industry should get a lift as a result of those markets," Mr Amirahmadi said.
As for the UK, he believes the dynamics need to change. He said for too many years the liquid milk market has been failing to deliver for farmers.
"Over the next five years we will have to make some tough decisions about where our milk goes to ensure farmers can cover their costs and continue to invest in reducing their on-farm emissions," he added.
"The profitability of some of our milk contracts will need to increase significantly when up for renewal in order to compete with more attractive business opportunities that are opening up."
 

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Sainsbury's again - slab cake that used to be £1.50, now £1.90, cake that used to be £1.35, now £1.50
 

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My mum was bemoaning that the single cream she gets from the coop, which was about a pound late last year is now 1.40
 

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I've just finished my online grocery order, and one thing I noticed was that many of the own-brand products were out of stock. The only tomatoes that were available were the premium packs. I'll have to try to get them in Costcutter later on.

Mayonnaise was another product that was out of stock and I had to buy Hellman's instead (I'm not buying that locally!)
 

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Not food, in fact the other end of the process, but Co-op Recycled White Bathroom Tissue has gone up to £2.85. A month or two ago it was £2.10, although it may have briefly have gone up to £2.20.
 

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Hovis Granary 800g sliced bread seems to have increased by 15p from £1.50 to £1.65 per loaf at Tesco/Sainsbury/Ocado of recent, which is an exactly 10% increase.

Wonder how long before someone is charging £2.00+ per loaf for this particular product?
Possibly won't be too much longer even at the high street supermarkets.

Now up another 20p from £1.65 to £1.85 at both Tesco and Sainsbury.

My local chippy also seems to have had another recent price hike.

A portion of chips, which had previously been £1.50, were first increased to £1.65 a few months ago, but is now £1.75.
 

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Not food, in fact the other end of the process, but Co-op Recycled White Bathroom Tissue has gone up to £2.85. A month or two ago it was £2.10, although it may have briefly have gone up to £2.20.
Just to be contrary.

Little Duck Supreme Quilted Toilet Tissue [24 rolls] have gone down in price from £6.50 to £6.29 at Tesco. Not marked as a special offer or Clubcard price. Buy now while stocks last. It won't go off in the cupboard.
 

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Just to be contrary.

Little Duck Supreme Quilted Toilet Tissue [24 rolls] have gone down in price from £6.50 to £6.29 at Tesco. Not marked as a special offer or Clubcard price. Buy now while stocks last. It won't go off in the cupboard.
Compare the number of sheets in each roll. A while ago one of the brands available quietly reduced the number of sheets by a fair amount by increasing the size of the central cardboard tube.
 

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Compare the number of sheets in each roll. A while ago one of the brands available quietly reduced the number of sheets by a fair amount by increasing the size of the central cardboard tube.
Ah, that pesky shrinkflation strikes again!

Same number of sheets per roll but they have shaved a few mm off each dimension: whole pack now 46.3sqm instead of 52.8sqm. To be honest, I never found the sheets too small in use.
 
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