Formula 1

[Efini92]

There was time to do it immediately. As noted above, Antonelli managed it.

There wasn't even a hint of attempting to give it back. Even a radio message from MV asking if he had to give the place back might have helped his cause.

I suspect they took the gamble as hoping the running in the fresh air would allow him to pull away.
There may have been a radio message that was never broadcast.

Very commendable performance by Norris after qualy shambles and actually very stoic in the car with well deserved P4 although I thought he'd blown it when he was put under investigation but kept his head down.

He could’ve been on the podium had he not squabbled with Hamilton, was quite surprised he fell for the second drs line twice. Especially after the Hamilton/verstappen squabble in 2021.

 

[najaB]

There may have been a radio message that was never broadcast.

Given the intense interest and impact of the time penalty they would have broadcast it, even if after the fact.

 

[Efini92]

Given the intense interest and impact of the time penalty they would have broadcast it, even if after the fact.

They seem to be a law unto themselves with the broadcasts. It’s being reported that verstappen’s response to the 5 second penalty, which was starred out, was not not a profanity.

 

[JD2168]

Very commendable performance by Norris after qualy shambles and actually very stoic in the car with well deserved P4 although I thought he'd blown it when he was put under investigation but kept his head down.

I did think that Norris was not learning after the first time with Hamilton, to have it done again was a bit embarrassing. Also you only had to watch previous races on video to see what happens when you overtake into the last corner & concede the DRS to the other driver.

Definitely not Lando’s finest weekend

 

[CharlieSpotted]

They seem to be a law unto themselves with the broadcasts. It’s being reported that verstappen’s response to the 5 second penalty, which was starred out, was not not a profanity.

It was "bloody lovely" wasn't it?

Which, if 'bloody' is an offensive word at all, is very mild. My reference point on this is always Ofcom's reasearch "Public attitudes towards offensive language on TV and Radio" which found (in 2021) that 'bloody' was 'Mild: unlikely to cause concern in most circumstances, requiring limited context.'

The research is here, if anyone fancies something simultaneously nerdy and sweary to read:

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/siteassets/resources/documents/research-and-data/tv-radio-and-on-demand-research/tv-research/offensive-language-quick-reference-guide.pdf?v=326908

 

[Cloud Strife]

I wonder if the safety car coming immediately afterwards was a factor? Even if Red Bull thought a penalty was coming, they couldn't hand back under the safety car as there's no overtaking allowed.

It shouldn't have been a problem to radio Race Control and ask them for authorisation to return the place under the safety car. It could easily have been coordinated without any danger, and I think the real issue is that Red Bull don't know if Max actually would return the place or not.

All they really had to do was say "Hey, Race Control, we think we gained the place illegally, should we return the place and can we do it under the safety car?".

The FIA get a lot of criticism, but Race Control works flawlessly in most cases without anyone ever noticing what is happening.