DarloRich
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agreed - but he hasn't performed.
we have all had a bad day at work!
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Some theories that Red Bull instructed him to return to the pits to ensure the safety car was deployed, to get rid of Lando’s sizeable lead, which gave Max a way back into the race he went on to win
Not quite Crashgate, but along the same lines.
Quite a strange theory when you consider Max was leading when Perez crashed. Lando's lead was earlier in the race.
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Yes, if anything returning to the pits would make it more likely that the safety car would not be used...Quite a strange theory when you consider Max was leading when Perez crashed. Lando's lead was earlier in the race.
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Aware that there's a financial penalty for Red Bull for this incident too, but this really needs stamping down on, you really can't have teams instructing drivers to stay on track with a car in a dangerous condition, purely in order to gain (or maintain) a sporting advantage. It's not a sporting issue, it's a safety issue, and needs to be very strongly discouraged indeed.
DarloRich
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"Same old Red Bull always cheating"
( they all do it - I just don't know why you would admit it!)
yoyothehobo
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Important question - Did anyone else see what looked like a gopher near the final chicane on one of the laps after the first safety car restart or was it just me?
Canada is infamous for groundhogs on/near the track. https://www.planetf1.com/news/almost-dead-max-verstappen-explains-swerve-george-russell-happy has a photo of one at the final chicane.
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thanks, i knew they were frequent there, but i only caught it out of the corner of my eye and didnt see whether it was a piece of debris.
DarloRich
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they were mentioning them all weekend on the radio. They are common at the Canadian GP.
Max Verstappen has won the Spanish Grand Prix ahead of Lando Norris in second & Lewis Hamilton in third.
Ahead of the weekend Flávio Briatore returned to F1 as an executive advisor to Alpine. This is seen as a controversial appointment after his previous history in F1 including the Crashgate scandal at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix when Nelson Piquet was deliberately to to crash the car to help Fernando Alonso win the race.
Ahead of the weekend Flávio Briatore returned to F1 as an executive advisor to Alpine. This is seen as a controversial appointment after his previous history in F1 including the Crashgate scandal at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix when Nelson Piquet was deliberately to to crash the car to help Fernando Alonso win the race.
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Can't believe that was almost sixteen years ago. Max (winning) is getting a bit boring now.
True. Though his margins of victory are a lot smaller now than they have been for a couple of years. Today's race came down to strategy as much as the Red Bull's dominance.
birchesgreen
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Can't believe i forgot to watch the race, from the highlights it looks like it was a good one too.
DarloRich
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A good race but Lando messed up the start and lost. Him trying to run Verstappen down was fun but futile as Lando burnt up some of his tyre advantage passing the mercs.
Max Verstappen has won the Austrian Grand Prix Sprint Race with Oscar Piastri in second & Lando Norris in third.
In the race qualifying Max Verstappen has qualified on Pole position with Lando Norris in second & George Russell in third.
In the race qualifying Max Verstappen has qualified on Pole position with Lando Norris in second & George Russell in third.
Glad to see both McLarens putting on (some) pressure. Just need a few missing pieces and they could in theory be right with Max. So good to have Oscar and Lando on long-ish term contracts as well so there’s a definite project obviously
DarloRich
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first time Verstappen has come up against someone prepared to crash rather than yield. He often relies on that to bully people as the opposition often will play percentages and Vertappen knows even if he does go off he will win the next race.
Verstappen didn't like that!
Lando for me made a mistake in trying to overtake in turn 3, he should have lined up Max, kept behind & DRS overtook him to turn 4. When overtaking into turn 3 he was giving Max the DRS & a slipstream to the next turn enabling Max to get back past. I also thought Lando was becoming more desperate particularly as he was getting a 5 second penalty for Track Limits & so was desperate to get past to try & open up a gap.
The whole incidents would not have happened had Red Bull not had a slow final stop with a sticky wheel nut. This caused the 6 second lead to evaporate & led to the battling in front.
Giving Lando the Driver of the Day award was silly, especially in the face of good drives from Oscar Piastri & Nico Hulkenberg who along with Kevin Magnussen gave Haas a double points finish.
George got lucky but did well to keep the gap low to take advantage of the situation.
The whole incidents would not have happened had Red Bull not had a slow final stop with a sticky wheel nut. This caused the 6 second lead to evaporate & led to the battling in front.
Giving Lando the Driver of the Day award was silly, especially in the face of good drives from Oscar Piastri & Nico Hulkenberg who along with Kevin Magnussen gave Haas a double points finish.
George got lucky but did well to keep the gap low to take advantage of the situation.
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Lando did have a fresh set of tyres versus Max’s used ones, so although the slow stop immediately closed the gap, Lando could well have been up there soon enough.
Would Lando have been getting so desperate if Max hadn’t reverted to his old habits of messing about in the braking zone?
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Nicholas Lewis
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Oscar Piastri is a feisty driver and is already giving Lando a run for his money and a future world champion as he matures
What do you mean "if"?
Oops, should have been a hadn’t in there.