Freight blocks WCML (again..)

[brianthegiant]

www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/10162736._
says:
"Rail passengers face delays in Watford Junction station today. A freight train has broken down in the station and is causing delays and alterations to rail services. A locomotive is currently on its way to rescue the stricken engine."

Is it me or does this seem to happen quite regularly on the WCML? would the freight operator get stung under delay attribution?

 

[The Planner]

Yes, massively, around £100 per attributable minute to a Virgin service. Less for a LM and Southern.

 

[ushawk]

Broke down in the tunnel apparently - of all the places !!!

 

[GB]

Yes, massively, around £100 per attributable minute to a Virgin service. Less for a LM and Southern.

There is a £££ cap though. To stop the tocs and focs going bust.

 

[YorkshireRider]

There is a £££ cap though. To stop the tocs and focs going bust.

How much is the cap?

 

[GB]

Not too sure on the specifics to be honest. Probably different for each company but I think for freight it's something like 30k per incident.

 

[ushawk]

Another loco has failed at Watford !! The Down Highland Sleeper this time.

 

[33056]

Was 66006 on 6H50 Willesden ET to Tunstead, from what I have heard it wasn't actually in Watford Tunnel but stopped just to the south of it possibly with the rear end foul of Watford North Jn. Think 92037 off 6A42 was used to return 6H50 to Wembley where it still resides.

brianthegiant, I don't personally consider that there are a lot of freight train failures on the WCML relative to the number of such trains that actually run - passenger trains cause a lot more trouble

Total delay minutes for the incident are around 1,400 minutes.

 

[tsr]

Another loco has failed at Watford !! The Down Highland Sleeper this time.

That's the second disrupted Sleeper tonight...

 

[33056]

1S25 now on the move again, just as well because there are no spare engines round this end of the world at the moment.......

 

[ushawk]

That's the second disrupted Sleeper tonight...

That would be the Up sleeper from Fort William cancelled wouldn't it ?

Some kind of fault - no idea if its the 67 or coaches what are the problem.

 

[tsr]

That would be the Up sleeper from Fort William cancelled wouldn't it ?

Some kind of fault - no idea if its the 67 or coaches what are the problem.

Yes. A faulty freight train is blocking the line. 6S(45?) tanks. I have absolutely no idea yet what the fault is!

 

[Smudger105e]

Not too sure on the specifics to be honest. Probably different for each company but I think for freight it's something like 30k per incident.

I know that in the past my FOC has incurred costs of £300,000+ for one incident, although there may be a cap these days, I'm not sure.

Most, if not all, FOCs and TOCs have delay attribution sections, whose function is to check delay cots, to check the attribution is correct, and to reject incorrectly allocated delay costs.

 

[HSTEd]

Most, if not all, FOCs and TOCs have delay attribution sections, whose function is to check delay cots, to check the attribution is correct, and to reject incorrectly allocated delay costs.

They then go to the delay attribution board and fight long and expensive cases over things like the argument over whether a pheasant is a 'large' or a 'small' bird.

What fun this is.

 

[GearJammer]

Funny, if it was the M1/M25 and a broken down truck was causing massive delays everybody would be shouting freight should be on the rails.....

So i guess going on that theory they best put freight back on the road