Freight Train Derailment - Barry Docks (01/11)

[cragdrummer]

Just hearing from a local news outlet (Bro Radio) in Barry (South Wales) that "a freight train has overturned" on the Barry Docks line. Unfortunately I cant verify this as Im in not in Barry at the moment but i'm asuming the train involved is the freightliner to/from Wentloog

Screenshot of post from Broradio

 

[notverydeep]

Just hearing from a local news outlet (Bro Radio) in Barry (South Wales) that "a freight train has overturned" on the Barry Docks line. Unfortunately I cant verify this as Im in not in Barry at the moment but i'm asuming the train involved is the freightliner to/from Wentloog

Screenshot of post from Broradio

4O57 1329 Wentloog (Freightliners) to Southampton M.C.T. seems to have got underway on time at roughly the time of your post: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:H07928/2023-10-31/detailed, so not sure it can be that...

 

[Freightmaster]

4O57 1329 Wentloog (Freightliners) to Southampton M.C.T. seems to have got underway on time at roughly the time of your post: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:H07928/2023-10-31/detailed, so not sure it can be that...

OP is referring to the 'trip' working between Wentloog and Barry:

Realtime Trains | 4B48 0934 Wentloog (Freightliners) to Barry Docks Dow Chemicals | 31/10/2023

Real-time train running information for 4B48 0934 departure from Wentloog (Freightliners) to Barry Docks Dow Chemicals on 31/10/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Realtime Trains | 4B49 1446 Barry Docks Dow Chemicals to Wentloog (Freightliners) | 31/10/2023

Real-time train running information for 4B49 1446 departure from Barry Docks Dow Chemicals to Wentloog (Freightliners) on 31/10/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

MARK

 

[notverydeep]

OP is referring to the 'trip' working between Wentloog and Barry:

Realtime Trains | 4B48 0934 Wentloog (Freightliners) to Barry Docks Dow Chemicals | 31/10/2023

Real-time train running information for 4B48 0934 departure from Wentloog (Freightliners) to Barry Docks Dow Chemicals on 31/10/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Realtime Trains | 4B49 1446 Barry Docks Dow Chemicals to Wentloog (Freightliners) | 31/10/2023

Real-time train running information for 4B49 1446 departure from Barry Docks Dow Chemicals to Wentloog (Freightliners) on 31/10/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

MARK

Thanks Mark - I hadn't spotted that. I presume this is a low speed derailment within or close to the Dow Chemicals siding / loading point? I'm not very familiar with the area...

 

[Signal_Box]

Thanks Mark - I hadn't spotted that. I presume this is a low speed derailment within or close to the Dow Chemicals siding / loading point? I'm not very familiar with the area...

The train made it down, but not back - minor derailment inside the ABP boundary.

 

[TheSeeker]

Just out of interest. What they do with the containers once the train arrives? I can't see any crane equipment. Wentloog isn't far away either.

 

[Llanigraham]

Ypu can lift containers with a large forklift truck.

 

[DelW]

Just out of interest. What they do with the containers once the train arrives? I can't see any crane equipment. Wentloog isn't far away either.

Usually specialised "reach stackers" rather than forklifts:

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(video clip of a reach stacker placing a container)

 

[greatkingrat]

So was the original report of it "overturning" just journalistic exaggeration?

 

[TheSeeker]

Usually specialised "reach stackers" rather than forklifts:

Ah yes of course. Now you mention it I can see one in the yard on google maps.

Do the containers go there for local distribution by road? Is there any outgoing load when the train leaves?

 

[DelW]

Ah yes of course. Now you mention it I can see one in the yard on google maps.

Do the containers go there for local distribution by road? Is there any outgoing load when the train leaves?

No local knowledge here I'm afraid, I've never been there.

 

[Signal_Box]

So was the original report of it "overturning" just journalistic exaggeration?

Yes the train doesn’t go anywhere near fast enough to over turn.

 

[Dunfanaghy Rd]

Ah yes of course. Now you mention it I can see one in the yard on google maps.

Do the containers go there for local distribution by road? Is there any outgoing load when the train leaves?

I believe that the containers are for Dow Corning. EWS / DB used to have the contract to run them from So'ton to Barry. The commodity was described as 'Silicon metal'. Grey shiny chips, from the odd one that escaped. Part of the deal was to do with the weight. We could load them 2 up on a 67 foot flat, but road transport could only carry 1 per trailer.
Pat

 

[Signal_Box]

The train often runs completely empty in both directions, but then on other occasions runs full with no apparent pattern.

I know Wentlogg are often keen to see it out of their terminal to free up space which is at a premium least days.