Gareth Southgate resigns as England manager. Who would you like to see replace him?

[Cowley]

In news that’s probably of no surprise to most people, Gareth Southgate has decided that he’s taken the team as far as he can:

Gareth Southgate resigns: England manager quits after Euro 2024 final defeat

England manager Gareth Southgate resigns after losing a second consecutive European Championship final.

www.bbc.co.uk

England manager Gareth Southgate has resigned after a second consecutive European Championship final defeat.
The Three Lions lost 2-1 to Spain in Berlin on Sunday, having been beaten on penalties by Italy at Wembley three years ago.
The 53-year-old managed his country for 102 games in eight years in charge. His contract was set to expire later this year.
"As a proud Englishman, it has been the honour of my life to play for England and to manage England," said Southgate.
"It has meant everything to me, and I have given it my all.
"But it’s time for change, and for a new chapter."
Southgate is the only manager bar 1966 World Cup winner Sir Alf Ramsey to lead the England men's team into a major tournament final.
He managed England at four major tournaments, also reaching the World Cup semi-finals in 2018 and quarter-finals in 2022.
Pressure mounted on him this summer, with many fans believing he was not getting enough out of a talented group of attacking players.

I’ve started a separate topic on this as I think it’s better to discuss it away from the main football thread and also because I might add a poll at some point.

What are thoughts? Who would you like to see replace him and what would your reasons be for those suggestions?

 

[NSEWonderer]

Eddie Howe and I'd put money on it, close second Potter. Wild card would be Frank Lampard as I can see such a blunder happening.

The first two play decent attacking football, more so Potter and I'd believe he'd utilise our attacking threat well whilst being decently capable of protecting our defense. Always thought the Chelsea job was wrong for him but this imo would work well.

 

[SteveP29]

NOT Eddie Howe please, he has so much more to achieve with us

 

[dangie]

I posted this earlier in the ‘Football’ thread, but now I think it’s better here. Have deleted the previous one:

Even though only a film, how Mike Bassett: Football Manager got the managers position was because all those preferred managers either didn’t want it or couldn’t do it e.g. in prison. He was way down the pecking order.

So using this as an example, who would want the England job? It may be a prestigious position in football management terms, but as others have found it’s also a poisoned chalice.

Any top successful manager would probably wish to remain where they are, so that leaves those who have failed and are on their way down, or those who have yet to prove themselves and are hopefully on the way up.

 

[DarloRich]

A sad but not unexpected event. I think he had gone as far as he could. I think people should look at the improvement and change under him and be thankful. it wont stop the brain rotted talksport nonsense mind.

it will be Howe or Potter. sigh.

 

[sannox]

Potter would make sense. I don't see Howe simply because he is in a job.

Think Southgate will be hard to follow. He largely avoided any embarrassments and in the end the tournament defeats were to better sides. I get the football hasn't been good to watch, but he did pretty well.

 

[NSEWonderer]

I posted this earlier in the ‘Football’ thread, but now I think it’s better here. Have deleted the previous one:

Even though only a film, how Mike Bassett: Football Manager got the managers position was because all those preferred managers either didn’t want it or couldn’t do it e.g. in prison. He was way down the pecking order.

So using this as an example, who would want the England job? It may be a prestigious position in football management terms, but as others have found it’s also a poisoned chalice.

Any top successful manager would probably wish to remain where they are, so that leaves those who have failed and are on their way down, or those who have yet to prove themselves and are hopefully on the way up.

This is sounding like Frank Lampard and I really don't want to see that

Had Burnley not taken Scott Parker I'd have said he'd be the lesser of two evils.

 

[baz962]

Big Sam surely

 

[GRALISTAIR]

I am sorry for him. Getting to the final is not bad at all. I hope he is still knighted at some stage.

 

[Howardh]

Sarina Wiegman. Been there, done that, got the trophy. That's if you don't mind a foreigner doing the job (see under Capello, Eriksson).

 

[richw]

Who’s the current under 21 manager? The way the structure is set is for progression through the age grades to seniors

 

[Norm_D_Ploom]

Sarina Wiegman. Been there, done that, got the trophy. That's if you don't mind a foreigner doing the job (see under Capello, Eriksson).

Are you being serious?

Who’s the current under 21 manager? The way the structure is set is for progression through the age grades to seniors

Lee Carsley

 

[Howardh]

Are you being serious?


Lee Carsley

Very serious. Can't she do the managers job? How much more experience do you want?

 

[birchesgreen]

There is no way they will pick a woman. Maybe in 30 years time (when we still haven't won owt)

 

[Norm_D_Ploom]

A sad but not unexpected event. I think he had gone as far as he could. I think people should look at the improvement and change under him and be thankful. it wont stop the brain rotted talksport nonsense mind.

it will be Howe or Potter. sigh.

Why is that a sigh ?

I think both would be good appointments, particularly Potter who has taken himself out of the bubble of English football and broadened his horizons.

Jason Tindals knobbishness aside Howe has done OK with both Bournemouth and the skunks. OK he's been well backed but he's done OK.

We can't seriously be entertaining a foreign manager otherwise what is the point of SGP and the coach education programme.

That being said I'd make an exception for Zizou with Be ks as assistant and Bobby Carlos as set piece coach!

 

[Tetchytyke]

Are you being serious?

Why not? Two Euros wins, two World Cup finals, sounds like a decent enough record to me.

It'll be interesting if Howe decides to leave- or, probably more accurately, if Newcastle's owners decide to take the opportunity to persuade him to leave so they get their own man in. If not I'd be more than happy with Potter or Carsley. Mauricio Pochettino, as well as being Argentinian, is far far too Spursy for my liking.

I think we all know they're going to go and do something stupid like announce Lampard or Gerrard as manager though.

 

[Norm_D_Ploom]

Very serious. Can't she do the managers job? How much more experience do you want?

No sorry but she has no experience of or exposure to the level of football she'd be expected to work at.

Sorry I'm not being misogynistic but it's a no for me.

 

[spyinthesky]

Very serious. Can't she do the managers job? How much more experience do you want?

It’s funny to see how the bookies throwing in these names to build up their pot before the serious betting starts.

 

[Norm_D_Ploom]

Why not? Two Euros wins, two World Cup finals, sounds like a decent enough record to me.

It'll be interesting if Howe decides to leave- or, probably more accurately, if Newcastle's owners decide to take the opportunity to persuade him to leave so they get their own man in. If not I'd be more than happy with Potter or Carsley. Mauricio Pochettino, as well as being Argentinian, is far far too Spursy for my liking.

I think we all know they're going to go and do something stupid like announce Lampard or Gerrard as manager though.

It is in women's football I'm not debating that but this isn't women's football and I'd don't think she's up to it.

The more you join the dots I think it will be Potter. Hasn't taken anything since Chelsea, worked for Ashworth at Brighton, Ashworth is mates with GS....... ?

 

[DarloRich]

We don't have many options! Sean Dyche for me

I think both would be good appointments, particularly Potter who has taken himself out of the bubble of English football and broadened his horizons.

Potter is all hype and no trousers. Failed, utterly, at Chelsea. Also seems smug despite failing. Won nowt.

Jason Tindals knobbishness aside Howe has done OK with both Bournemouth and the skunks. OK he's been well backed but he's done OK.

Howe is smug and happy to wallow in blood money. Big fish, small pond for me. Failed this season. Won nowt.

I think we all know they're going to go and do something stupid like announce Lampard or Gerrard as manager though

double sigh!

Mauricio Pochettino, as well as being Argentinian, is far far too Spursy for my liking.

International spuds shaped bottle job. Won nowt other than a french league but with more money than the dreams of avarice. A no from me.

It'll be interesting if Howe decides to leave- or, probably more accurately, if Newcastle's owners decide to take the opportunity to persuade him to leave so they get their own man in.

I am surprised Newcastle haven't booted him out and replaced him with a "name" already. If the FA have to buy out his contract that might help them with the fair play rules

 

[Tetchytyke]

I am surprised Newcastle haven't booted him out and replaced him with a "name" already. If the FA have to buy out his contract that might help them with the fair play rules

He got them in the Champions League and was unlucky to end up in the group with two of the semi-finalists. It bought him a lot of goodwill and, unlike Ashley, the Saudis aren't daft enough to bin off a manager that the fans like.

Ashworth is the bloke who set up much of England's development pathway when he was at the FA, so you'd assume that on the QT he still has influence.

The Saudis will definitely be hoping the FA come knocking.

 

[DarloRich]

The Saudis will definitely be hoping the FA come knocking.

I think it is Howe or Potter. I don't know who I would take, honestly. ( and i wasn't being entirely serious above - just thought i would behave like people do with Southgate )

 

[Tetchytyke]

It’s funny to see how the bookies throwing in these names to build up their pot before the serious betting starts.

Oh I don't think they'd appoint her and I don't think she'd accept it anyway, but I don't see why it would be stupid to appoint someone who's won two international football trophies and got to four international football finals.

I think it is Howe or Potter. I don't know who I would take, honestly.

I'd be happy enough with either tbh.

But the last two England managers the FA actually appointed- rather than end up with as a default caretaker- were Fabio Capello and Samuello Allardyci. So I'm fully expecting them to go for Steven Gerrard and for England to fail to qualify for the World Cup in 2026.

 

[spyinthesky]

Oh I don't think they'd appoint her and I don't think she'd accept it anyway, but I don't see why it would be stupid to appoint someone who's won two international football trophies and got to four international football finals.

On a similar level, I won the Butlins six a sides back in the 80’s.
Take that how you want, it’s almost a different sport.

 

[RailWonderer]

I think it is Howe or Potter. I don't know who I would take, honestly. ( and i wasn't being entirely serious above - just thought i would behave like people do with Southgate )

Potter hasn't won anything, rebuilding Brighton and Ostersund in Sweden are his only 'achievements'. Gareth rebuilt the England team when we were lower than low in 2016 after the 2-1 loss to Iceland. What we need now is a manager that will take us that one step further to victory. More aggressive playing and less scrappiness in the midfield for a start. Anyway there are 65 million other England managers out there so I'll pipe down.

 

[Howardh]

If Allardyce was once a serious contender, who actually got the job for a few days, why not Dyche? To me they are pretty similar?

 

[Meole]

Potter still being paid by Chelsea under his contract until he takes another job.

 

[Norm_D_Ploom]

We don't have many options! Sean Dyche for me

I' d be OK with that !

Potter is all hype and no trousers. Failed, utterly, at Chelsea. Also seems smug despite failing.

In fairness they've binned off Tuchel, Lampard and Poch so he in decent company. I'd take anything Chelsea did with a pinch of salt. Basket case of a club.

Won nowt.


Howe is smug and happy to wallow in blood money. Big fish, small pond for me. Failed this season. Won nowt.

Can't argue with you.

double sigh!

International spuds shaped bottle job. Won nowt other than a french league but with more money than the dreams of avarice. A no from me.

Yes managed to twice lose to that fraud Klopp in a final. You have to be really crap to manage that.

 

[Shaw S Hunter]

Time for another foreigner: Guardiola!

 

[Howardh]

Time for another foreigner: Guardiola!

Koeman! Please take Ronald Koeman!!