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nanstallon

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A positive change - service 94 giving a Truro to Newquay Airport bus every two hours (approx) during the day.
 

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They're running it commercially. They didn't have to bother doing anything.
Does the operator have double decker vehicles ? Haven't seen any recently around Penwith. Think the demand will overwhelm capacity in August with that timetable initially ?
 

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Does the operator have double decker vehicles ? Haven't seen any recently around Penwith. Think the demand will overwhelm capacity in August with that timetable initially ?
Yes, loads of double decks in the fleet.

While there's no all-day double deck routes based out of Penzance, school day routes 2/2A and 9 are.
 
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Andyh82

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The TfC timetable book for April is now online:


Of some interest is new route 7, a limited replacement for the Lands End Coaster between St Ives and Lands End. Summer half term and school summer hols only, four return journeys with the first one starting at Penzance, running via Marazion to St Ives and Lands End and the last one journey in reverse back to Penzance.

Showing service 11 on one timetable when there is now a gap with no buses in the middle could be confusing. Surely one of the now seperate sections could have been renumbered

For those people who start those threads who want to travel across the country by bus, it now seems getting across Cornwall will be pretty difficult as there is a line from Fowey up through Bodmin moor that is only crossed by some infrequent services

A cut that seems to have snuck in that wasn’t entirely clear previously is with the 21 & 25 between Newquay and St Austell, there is basically now only one bus an hour between these points rather than the previous two.

I wonder if there are some seasonal errors, as the Eden Project services only mention being run in the summer holidays, no mention of any service in May half term. On the opposite, there is no mention of the short U1s being term time only. I wouldn’t expect they would be running in the summer holidays.

Finally I still think after all these years it’s a shame there are no maps of local towns, the old Cornwall council timetables used to show town plans
 

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On the maps and index, there is also a route 7A, but there doesn't appear to be a timetable for it :frown:
There is - look at the timetable itself.
It’s operating as route 7 from St Ives to Lands End and and route 7a in the opposite direction from Lands End to St Ives.
 

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Showing service 11 on one timetable when there is now a gap with no buses in the middle could be confusing. Surely one of the now seperate sections could have been renumbered

For those people who start those threads who want to travel across the country by bus, it now seems getting across Cornwall will be pretty difficult as there is a line from Fowey up through Bodmin moor that is only crossed by some infrequent services

A cut that seems to have snuck in that wasn’t entirely clear previously is with the 21 & 25 between Newquay and St Austell, there is basically now only one bus an hour between these points rather than the previous two.

I wonder if there are some seasonal errors, as the Eden Project services only mention being run in the summer holidays, no mention of any service in May half term. On the opposite, there is no mention of the short U1s being term time only. I wouldn’t expect they would be running in the summer holidays.

Finally I still think after all these years it’s a shame there are no maps of local towns, the old Cornwall council timetables used to show town plans
The 11 has virtually been cut into two sections with a gap between them yet both are shown on the same timetable. But, at the same time, the 12 has been split into the 12, 76A and 76, some journeys running through and some not, also shown together but very confusing. The middle section isn't even shown on the map now. Why is the western part of the 11 not renumbered?

Quite a lot of other changes, although some areas are not impacted. The rural area around Camelford has suffered quite severe cuts with fewer buses from there to Bodmin and Port Isaac. The 21, 22 and 25 have changed to a complex mixture of 21/A and 22/A cutting one bus every two hours west of St Austell. Also the 26 from St Austell to Bodmin is reduced from hourly to two hourly.

As @Andyh82 says, there are few buses crossing a north-south line between say Boscastle and Fowey. The 95 through Boscastle has 6 buses per day, 4-5 per day on the 97 between Camelford and Launceston, the couple on the 11 between Bodmin & Liskeard (plus the train), one 482 a week from Polperro to Bodmin and 4-5 per day on the 481 between Polperro and Polruan - then take a ferry to Fowey.
 

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The 11 has virtually been cut into two sections with a gap between them yet both are shown on the same timetable. But, at the same time, the 12 has been split into the 12, 76A and 76, some journeys running through and some not, also shown together but very confusing. The middle section isn't even shown on the map now. Why is the western part of the 11 not renumbered?

Quite a lot of other changes, although some areas are not impacted. The rural area around Camelford has suffered quite severe cuts with fewer buses from there to Bodmin and Port Isaac. The 21, 22 and 25 have changed to a complex mixture of 21/A and 22/A cutting one bus every two hours west of St Austell. Also the 26 from St Austell to Bodmin is reduced from hourly to two hourly.

As @Andyh82 says, there are few buses crossing a north-south line between say Boscastle and Fowey. The 95 through Boscastle has 6 buses per day, 4-5 per day on the 97 between Camelford and Launceston, the couple on the 11 between Bodmin & Liskeard (plus the train), one 482 a week from Polperro to Bodmin and 4-5 per day on the 481 between Polperro and Polruan - then take a ferry to Fowey.
We are simply returning to the networks that came about following cuts by the old Western National back in the early 1970s. Liskeard to Bodmin was if I recall always a gap as was Liskeard to St Austell. It is perhaps surprising that Boscastle to Lanson has as many as 5 a day.
 

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We are simply returning to the networks that came about following cuts by the old Western National back in the early 1970s. Liskeard to Bodmin was if I recall always a gap as was Liskeard to St Austell. It is perhaps surprising that Boscastle to Lanson has as many as 5 a day.
Yes, Lostwithiel was bus less for years apart from a weekly (non-WN) Bodmin run. Let us hope we are not going back to completely abandoning North Cornwall as WN did either!
 

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I thought the 90 to the Airport had gone and been replaced by a 94 Truro to Wadebridge?
It does a double run from St Columb Major to/from the Airport on its way from Truro to Wadebridge. Seems to add 15-20 mins onto the running time
 

RELL6L

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We are simply returning to the networks that came about following cuts by the old Western National back in the early 1970s. Liskeard to Bodmin was if I recall always a gap as was Liskeard to St Austell. It is perhaps surprising that Boscastle to Lanson has as many as 5 a day.
My recollection going back that far was that Liskeard was even more of a desert with no buses even to Plymouth, Looe or Callington. I think there was a service along the north coast from Tintagel to Bude but not a great deal else. Services now are still a lot better than those times, as are the trains.
 

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My recollection going back that far was that Liskeard was even more of a desert with no buses even to Plymouth, Looe or Callington. I think there was a service along the north coast from Tintagel to Bude but not a great deal else. Services now are still a lot better than those times, as are the trains.
Didn't there used to be an X1 from Plymouth to Penzance?
 

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Showing service 11 on one timetable when there is now a gap with no buses in the middle could be confusing. Surely one of the now seperate sections could have been renumbered
Good point. Renumber the Plymouth - Polperro as the 72 and have Padstow - Bodmin as Service 10.

Dave
 

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My recollection going back that far was that Liskeard was even more of a desert with no buses even to Plymouth, Looe or Callington. I think there was a service along the north coast from Tintagel to Bude but not a great deal else. Services now are still a lot better than those times, as are the trains.
Timetable World has the Devon county 1979 timetable and shows there was a WN 520 service running twice a day from Plymouth to St Austell, with Plymouth to Looe every two hours (ish) and Exeter to Bude (4 journeys - Jennings) and not much else.

Didn't there used to be an X1 from Plymouth to Penzance?
There was for a short while, even using Olympians.

However, I can recall that you could use your KeyWest ticket west of Plymouth on any National Express service subject to paying a surcharge.
 

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