GWR Waterloo and Euston

[800301]

Could be wrong but I think an GWR IET might be about to venture into Waterloo and Euston, I assume for clearance runs

Realtime Trains | 5X80 0900 North Pole International to London Waterloo | 18/03/2024

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Realtime Trains | 5Q82 1122 Willesden S.W.S. to London Euston | 18/03/2024

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[contrex]

To do with diversions because of construction at Old Oak Common? Waterloo & Euston were mentioned in a Railway Hub interview with Mark Hopwood in November 2023. Euston, he says, is the preferred option, being half an hour quicker from Acton. Also he talks about improving access from the West London line to North Pole depot.

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[traji00]

802101 just arrived into Platform 17 at Waterloo.

 

[swt_passenger]

These intended paths were also mentioned in the Old Oak Common station thread yesterday.

 

[Bletchleyite]

A friend has just messaged me to say he's just seen one pull into Euston P16.

 

[jfollows]

A friend has just messaged me to say he's just seen one pull into Euston P16.

Booked out to Willesden and back to Euston later today according to RTT, oh, as per the first post above …..

 

[Recessio]

I was wondering why I saw a GWR train going through Battersea Queenstown Road, I was wondering if I was seeing things...

 

[Horizon22]

Also discussed here - https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/hs2-old-oak-common.240858/page-14#post-6687148

GWR trains for clearance runs to test out diversions to Euston and Waterloo for the OOC blockades.

 

[norbitonflyer]

Convenientkly also showing which 701 is in public service today!

 

[Horizon22]

Convenientkly also showing which 701 is in public service today!

Two unusual (for now) trains side-by-side! Spotter's paradise haha.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

There was talk of wiring the short OHLE gaps at Acton Bank and through SW Sidings to the WCML - do we know if this is still on the cards?

 

[Horizon22]

There was talk of wiring the short OHLE gaps at Acton Bank and through SW Sidings to the WCML - do we know if this is still on the cards?

Yes:

The Poplars (Acton to Acton Wells) were/are planned to be electrified as part of this.

 

[Benjwri]

Was another IET out at Euston today testing the a lot of the low numbered platforms.

 

[Boodiggy]

Was another IET out at Euston today testing the a lot of the low numbered platforms.

All platforms will be checked through the week! Checking stepping height and distances plus use of ramp for wheelchairs etc

 

[The Planner]

The overall plan is still to use Euston P16 if they can. Waterloo is very very unlikely.

 

[Nunners]

The overall plan is still to use Euston P16 if they can. Waterloo is very very unlikely.

Is Marylebone a possibility for north Cotswold trains?

 

[12LDA28C]

Is Marylebone a possibility for north Cotswold trains?

I don't believe Marylebone has been suggested. Certainly no testing of the trains has been carried out and as far as I know IETs are not currently passed for the route.

 

[Benjwri]

I don't believe Marylebone has been suggested. Certainly no testing of the trains has been carried out and as far as I know IETs are not currently passed for the route.

Would be a nightmare at Oxford, there isn't the space in the timetable to reverse, and at that point you're ripping significant amounts of services from Reading to Oxford, which in my experience is a very busy route.

 

[The Planner]

Is Marylebone a possibility for north Cotswold trains?

No, 800s aren't cleared.

 

[Wilts Wanderer]

Would be a nightmare at Oxford, there isn't the space in the timetable to reverse, and at that point you're ripping significant amounts of services from Reading to Oxford, which in my experience is a very busy route.

Currently you could potentially devise a plan (with accommodations by Chiltern) to reverse 5 car trains in the bay platforms. Once EWR start running this won‘t be possible. But as stated above, 800s aren’t cleared to Marylebone so it’s a moot point.

 

[Woolos 22]

Could euston take 6 train an hour for reading

 

[The Planner]

Could euston take 6 train an hour for reading

No.

 

[Horizon22]

No.

Which does raise the issue that people will "wait" for through trains to Euston which will probably make them artificially busy as opposed to the trains that terminate at Reading (I assume there will be some to keep up frequencies).

 

[The Planner]

Which does raise the issue that people will "wait" for through trains to Euston which will probably make them artificially busy as opposed to the trains that terminate at Reading (I assume there will be some to keep up frequencies).

People will look at what the quickest service will be, if its the Euston train then its a risk which people already understand. Trains will be getting to Ealing Broadway rather than Reading.

 

[TrainBoy98]

I guess at least at Ealing its a relatively easy connection to Lizzie line or the tube for onward journeys - hopefully the journey planners will be set up in a way that doesn't overcrowd Euston (as we all know Euston has it's own issues at the mo)

 

[Class15]

Won’t Euston itself be closed (as well as the route as far as Primrose Hill Tunnel) for HS2 works at some point?

 

[Horizon22]

I guess at least at Ealing its a relatively easy connection to Lizzie line or the tube for onward journeys - hopefully the journey planners will be set up in a way that doesn't overcrowd Euston (as we all know Euston has it's own issues at the mo)

Last Christmas already had trains terminating at Ealing Broadway so the plans are in place.

Don’t forget the Elizabeth line is equally impacted though so will terminate at Ealing Broadway or divert too.

The main risk is Central line overcrowding.

 

[507020]

The overall plan is still to use Euston P16 if they can. Waterloo is very very unlikely.

And if they can’t, Waterloo is still unlikely?

Which does raise the issue that people will "wait" for through trains to Euston which will probably make them artificially busy as opposed to the trains that terminate at Reading (I assume there will be some to keep up frequencies).

I’m expecting a mixture of GWR services to Euston, Waterloo, Reading and Ealing Broadway simply because none of the above will be able to reverse the full Paddington service on their own, with as many trains as possible terminating at each practical location.

Is it not useful for passengers who are inconvenienced by the closure of Paddington to have a choice of multiple alternative points in London they could arrive at?

 

[The Planner]

And if they can’t, Waterloo is still unlikely?

2tph to Euston will work I expect.

I’m expecting a mixture of GWR services to Euston, Waterloo, Reading and Ealing Broadway simply because none of the above will be able to reverse the full Paddington service on their own, with as many trains as possible terminating at each practical location.

Is it not useful for passengers who are inconvenienced by the closure of Paddington to have a choice of multiple alternative points in London they could arrive at?

They won't go to Waterloo, takes too long.

 

[Bald Rick]

And if they can’t, Waterloo is still unlikely?

They can, and Waterloo isnt happening