CarrotPie
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The 3 that form an up train used to sometimes form one to Bristol too!Don’t some of the SWR west of England services split 3 ways at Salisbury? 3 to Exeter, 3 to Yeovil via Westbury and 3 to form a portion of an up train?
The 3 that form an up train used to sometimes form one to Bristol too!Don’t some of the SWR west of England services split 3 ways at Salisbury? 3 to Exeter, 3 to Yeovil via Westbury and 3 to form a portion of an up train?
Kings Cross to Cambridge and some then have a portion forward to Ely/Kings Lynn and vice versa.
I suspect that if you google "Atlantic Coast Express" (historical one, up to summer 1964), in winter it divided into ... I guess about 5 - 6 portions - others may know exactly. Many would have been one carriage portions!I didn't even know these existed until a couple of months ago when I was walking through Waterloo station and heard the automated voice talking about how a train was going to divide and which carriages you should sit in for which destinations. I forgot about this till now, but it really intrigued me. Are they common anywhere else in the UK other than on the SWML? I've never heard of them from other operators across the country before.
It’s not uncommon on London Waterloo to Exeter services for there two be two splits en route, with the initial 8/9-carriage service dropping some at Salisbury and another set at Yeovil Junction, leaving the final 3 carriages to proceed to Exeter.
No idea, it's outside my area and sphere of knowledge but the explanation you give seems quite logical.Don’t some of the SWR west of England services split 3 ways at Salisbury? 3 to Exeter, 3 to Yeovil via Westbury and 3 to form a portion of an up train?
Few years back at Salisbury, 159x3, front unit to Exeter SD, middle to Bristol TM (me), raer unit to depot/or attach to up train to Waterloo. Don't know if still thus post Covid.Don’t some of the SWR west of England services split 3 ways at Salisbury? 3 to Exeter, 3 to Yeovil via Westbury and 3 to form a portion of an up train?
It's also a split at a non-passenger station, which causes no end of trouble for "train status" apps that assume they only need to show passenger stations. (And the fact that it's a 3-way split doesn't help things either…)...which is a 3-way split! This must be the only example of a 3-way split in the UK surely?
There are still a few peak services which split at Cambridge. E.g. the 1739 from Kings Cross is 12 coaches Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays with front 8 coaches going to Kings Lynn and rear 4 terminating at Cambridge.That all stopped a few years ago.
There are still a few peak services which split at Cambridge. E.g. the 1739 from Kings Cross is 12 coaches Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays with front 8 coaches going to Kings Lynn and rear 4 terminating at Cambridge.
I assume the morning equivalents into London join to form 12 coaches at Cambridge.
The TfW services from Birmingham International that divide at Machynlleth into Aberystwyth and Pwllheli portions (mentioned in post 4), are made more confusing by the reversal at Shrewsbury. Thus the front two coaches when boarding east of Shrewsbury become the rear two coaches by the time the train is divided. Fortunately there is plenty of time for passengers to change units if necessary between Shrewsbury and Mach.
Yes. See post #3Aren't there some ScotRail dividing trains? I think I saw one while browsing through RTT a while ago trying to see out of curiosity how far north you can get from London using only trains that have headcodes starting with 2 in one day.
Yes, 1980s possibly later.Have there ever been dividing trains in Northern Ireland? When was the last one, if so?
I travelled on that service a lot in the 70s, If i remember correctly it was Liverpool-Preston which then joined the Manchester to Preston, the 2 diesels were removed and an electric loco added, At Carstairs the rear half of the train was detached , and hauled backwards to Edinburgh by a 47, the front portion continued to Glasgow with the electric loco. The consist was always IIRC, 5 coaches and buffet from Manchester, 5 coaches ex Liverpool , making 11 coaches in all. The service finished in the early 80s when it was combined with the Harwich Boat train from manchester, running Glasgow-Harwich via Preston, Bolton, Sheffield.In the 1970s I sometimes travelled on a train that had three portions: Liverpool-Glasgow, Manchester-Glasgow and Manchester-Edinburgh. Combined at Preston and divided at Carstairs.
There are still a few peak services which split at Cambridge. E.g. the 1739 from Kings Cross is 12 coaches Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays with front 8 coaches going to Kings Lynn and rear 4 terminating at Cambridge.
I assume the morning equivalents into London join to form 12 coaches at Cambridge.
Phew! Thought I'd gone mad, I didn't think it was that long since it's been on a service that joined at Cambridge.Thanks for that. It’s very rare indeed nowadays to see that happening for me.
A few years back probably about 2017/18. I had a meeting in Ayr. As I had time to spare I decided to go the scenic route via Kilmarnock. It split there with 1 portion going on to Stranraer and the other half returning to Glasgow. I remember this well as I was 30 seconds away of returning back to whence I came!!Aren't there some ScotRail dividing trains? I think I saw one while browsing through RTT a while ago trying to see out of curiosity how far north you can get from London using only trains that have headcodes starting with 2 in one day
There were 4 Liverpool/Manchester to Glasgow/Edinburgh and 4 Birmingham (/Bristol) to Glasgow/Edinburgh. Having been increased from 2 and 1 respectively at electrification. Eventually some workings ran beyond Edinburgh to Dundee, Aberdeen, Elgin or Inverness. The Bristol working eventually started back/extended to Penzance.I travelled on that service a lot in the 70s, If i remember correctly it was Liverpool-Preston which then joined the Manchester to Preston, the 2 diesels were removed and an electric loco added, At Carstairs the rear half of the train was detached , and hauled backwards to Edinburgh by a 47, the front portion continued to Glasgow with the electric loco. The consist was always IIRC, 5 coaches and buffet from Manchester, 5 coaches ex Liverpool , making 11 coaches in all. The service finished in the early 80s when it was combined with the Harwich Boat train from manchester, running Glasgow-Harwich via Preston, Bolton, Sheffield.