You could possibly squeeze a few extra tph out of it, maybe even 30tph? Failing that, extend them all to 11 cars (if Alstom hasn't gone bust by then).i can’t see there being capacity in the centre section for extensions. If there is any spare capacity it needs keeping free for the vast amounts of housing being built along the route!
What would the eastern terminus of those be? Dartford? Gravesend? Rochester? Gillingham?2. SE via woolwich runs fast between belvedere or erith to westcombe park, stopping only at Abbey Wood and woolwich.
You are a huge toffee-filled lollipop!if choosing to use insults please make them funny.
My fun idea for the day:
1. Keep EL as is
2. SE via woolwich runs fast between belvedere or erith to westcombe park, stopping only at Abbey Wood and woolwich.
3. North/east greenwich Tram route via dual carriageways from North greenwich, westcome park (a few possible routes), woolwich (via a206), former Plumstead station, thamesmead. Final strech either to belvedere with possibly branch to Abbey Wood (noting it would connect EL at woolwich anyway).
The now faster SE route would be competitive time wise with EL for some journeys to central london, and would also be a reasonable alternative to HS1 for North Kent passengers. Might be able to have longer trains by skipping woolwich dockyard (are any other stations an issue on that line?).
No extension of EL reduces capacity impact there, but maybe the tram and fast train connections would cancel that out.
As said and as always, just fun idea. I'll take no offense for opposing views but if choosing to use insults please make them funny.
I understood that EL extension to ebbsfleet was projected to cost a huge amount of money because of need to quad-track existing SE route (especially if wanted SE to run fast).Running fast between Dartford to Abbey Wood in event of a EL extension has been on the cards, leaving Slade Green, Erith & Belvedere served by EL trains only
If it’s extended to Gravesend, SE and/or Thameslink may miss out Stone, Swanscombe & Northfleet as well.
Definitely some of the extra 345s will be required when all Paddington terminators get extended to Old Oak Common, but probably not as much as 10. You couldn't fit anything more onto the relief lines, so perhaps diverting the Gidea Park trains away from Liverpool Street high-level into the core and maybe increase that to 4tphNot if it comes with trains carrying fresh air from Shenfield to Southend. It would be interesting to know what volume of passengers travel direct from Shenfield on the Elizabeth Line into London rather than taking considerably faster trains run by Greater Anglia.
In other considerations, what is the Elizabeth Line going to do with ten extra 345s? Can the core service be made more intensive? Is it possible to extend some Paddington terminators to Hayes & Harlington or West Drayton in the high peak?
If this worked, it would be a good thing - maybe they could squeeze past OOC into the Hayes bay or even onto Heathrow (or 2 and 2) - but any addl frequency through the core will be welcome, to OOC at least.Definitely some of the extra 345s will be required when all Paddington terminators get extended to Old Oak Common, but probably not as much as 10. You couldn't fit anything more onto the relief lines, so perhaps diverting the Gidea Park trains away from Liverpool Street high-level into the core and maybe increase that to 4tph