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How did Worcester Shrub Hill & Worcester Foregate St both survive Beeching/rationalisation?

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mr williams

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A couple of weeks ago I took a trip up to Worcestershire. On the way up the train went via Shrub Hill but on the way back Foregate St. Given how close they are and how run down the railways were in the 1960s, I couldn't help wondering how they both survived and why one of them wasn't closed, considering that one of the driving forces behind Beeching was ending duplication.
 
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The chairman of the Carlton Club (the original home of the Conservative Party before the days of Conservative Central Office) was the MP for Worcester, Peter Walker.
 

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Less conspiratorial: Shrub Hill had cross-country services and capacity so was needed. Even if the line from Rainbow Hill had been closed, running trains slowly through a closed Foregate St would have been plain daft. No site to flog off...
 

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A couple of weeks ago I took a trip up to Worcestershire. On the way up the train went via Shrub Hill but on the way back Foregate St. Given how close they are and how run down the railways were in the 1960s, I couldn't help wondering how they both survived and why one of them wasn't closed, considering that one of the driving forces behind Beeching was ending duplication.

Simply look at a map of central Worcester - Foregate Street is right in the heart of the city centre. Shrub Hill isn't.

Trains between Birmingham and Great Malvern/Hereford incur a time penalty for going into Shrub Hill and reversing. Never mind that, as 30907 says, had you shut Foregate Street, trains would still have to run through it anyway.

At the same time, even without the restrictive 1970s track layout through Foregate Street, it only has two shortish platforms, perched up on top of a viaduct and nowhere for car parking or anywhere to drop off/pick up, except in a busy street. Any terminating/reversing services occupy one of the platforms while doing so, as there are no bay platforms or adjacent sidings.

There were no easy answers at Worcester and still aren't. As a result, trains between Worcester and London will, from December, have to make three stops in the space of four miles to serve the city.

The chairman of the Carlton Club (the original home of the Conservative Party before the days of Conservative Central Office) was the MP for Worcester, Peter Walker.

At the time of the Beeching report, Peter Walker was a recently-elected backbench MP in a party that was removed from office in the 1964 general election, so hardly in a position of great influence. He served as chairman of the Carlton Club from, er, 1998 to 2004.
 

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There were plenty of other places where duplication of stations continued because all surviving services couldn't be concentrated onto one station, at least without spending a huge amount of money on new connections. Yeovil and Maidstone spring to mind. Even at Gloucester the closure of Eastgate didn't happen until the 1970s when the focus had changed from closing services to keeping the network in a steady state but cutting costs. The current restrictive layout at Foregate Street dates from 1973 so is more of that era too.
 

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Simply look at a map of central Worcester - Foregate Street is right in the heart of the city centre. Shrub Hill isn't.
Don't need a map, the names are a give-away :smile:
 
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