Hull Trains to serve Beverley

[Paul Duck]

Looking through December timings for various places this morning and noticed Hull Trains will be running a service to & from Beverley from the new timetable in December.

The 1st Southbound service will depart Beverley at 0602. (KGX 0914)
The 1850 from Kings cross will run to Beverley arriving at 2146.

As far as I can see this will only be a Monday to Friday operation.
Great to see another town being linked to London!

 

[Masbroughlad]

That is good news. Pity it doesn't go on to Bridlington though.

 

[Lad Brookes]

Lucky Beverley. Nice girl.

What time would it have to leave Bridlington to make the same path south of Doncaster? Probably 05:35 or so.

 

[Jordy]

Southbound: http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y60001
Northbound: http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y60032

 

[IanXC]

Lucky Beverley. Nice girl.

What time would it have to leave Bridlington to make the same path south of Doncaster? Probably 05:35 or so.

I'm not 100% sure at Beverley, but certainly Driffield and Bridlington boxes don't open until 6am... So 2 shifts on the boxes would seem to be the limiting factor.

I'm not sure Bridlington would have a case, other than on Summer weekends - compare to the EMT service to Scarborough (this would particularly become an issue if Northern current express Bridlington-Hull-Sheffield is split with Hull-Sheffield going to TP).

Great stuff for East Yorkshire though - Hull Trains have said a lot about the success of their HT&NT routes tickets on the coast line, so presumably that's demonstrated the market.

 

[Harpers Tate]

Good for them.

 

[Max]

I did wonder if this would happen eventually, great innovation from Hull Trains though to make it happen! The southbound also provides a much earlier connection into Hull for Sheffield, Leeds and Manchester which is great news. It might help to stem the tide of people who drive from the Beverley area to Brough to pick up trains there.

I'm not going to lie though, I'm slightly disappointed that the train won't be calling at Cottingham given there is no connection into Hull (even by bus) for this train. Is there an issue with platform length?

 

[ainsworth74]

I'm not going to lie though, I'm slightly disappointed that the train won't be calling at Cottingham given there is no connection into Hull (even by bus) for this train. Is there an issue with platform length?

It's been a while since I've been to Cottingham but I recall the platforms being pretty long there. Certainly long enough for a four-car 158 but a quick play with Google Earth's ruler tool suggests that they're only 100m long so a 180 wouldn't fully. Though couldn't you have the front and back overhang a bit as the front doors aren't for passenger use (though where is the signal in the Beverley direction proteting the level crossing)?

 

[Sacro]

It's been a while since I've been to Cottingham but I recall the platforms being pretty long there. Certainly long enough for a four-car 158 but a quick play with Google Earth's ruler tool suggests that they're only 100m long so a 180 wouldn't fully. Though couldn't you have the front and back overhang a bit as the front doors aren't for passenger use (though where is the signal in the Beverley direction proteting the level crossing)?

B27 is out the back of Kingdom Hall IIRC, not far off the end of the platform.

 

[43167]

Good on Hull Trains. If you mention the Cottingham thing to them they might think about it, I have worked there once, it appears to the similar size as Howden where Hull Trains do serve.

 

[Class 170101]

Those trains have marginal time written all over them.

 

[bb21]

It's been a while since I've been to Cottingham but I recall the platforms being pretty long there. Certainly long enough for a four-car 158 but a quick play with Google Earth's ruler tool suggests that they're only 100m long so a 180 wouldn't fully. Though couldn't you have the front and back overhang a bit as the front doors aren't for passenger use (though where is the signal in the Beverley direction proteting the level crossing)?

104 metres in both directions, so you were (well, Google Earth's ruler was) pretty spot on.

 

[ainsworth74]

B27 is out the back of Kingdom Hall IIRC, not far off the end of the platform.

So, in that case, you could potentially have a 180 call at Cottingham and just overhand the platforms at each end as I believe the front and rear doors are crew only (unless they need to be platformed for some reason...)?

104 metres in both directions, so you were (well, Google Earth's ruler was) pretty spot on.

 

[IanXC]

104 metres in both directions, so you were (well, Google Earth's ruler was) pretty spot on.

How does that compare to platform 2 at Beverley (where up and down services are booked into)?

Does anyone know how these services to Beverley stand in terms of Hull Trains track access contract?

 

[bb21]

How does that compare to platform 2 at Beverley (where up and down services are booked into)?

Does anyone know how these services to Beverley stand in terms of Hull Trains track access contract?

You just reminded me.

What were you saying A74? Cottingham? That would be 108.6 metres in both directions. Beverley is 104 metres.

This must be the onset of dementia.

(So your ruler is not as accurate as I thought. More than 5% out. )

 

[ainsworth74]

(So your ruler is not as accurate as I thought. More than 5% out. )

Don't care

 

[Crossover]

So, in that case, you could potentially have a 180 call at Cottingham and just overhand the platforms at each end as I believe the front and rear doors are crew only (unless they need to be platformed for some reason...)?

Well, GC calling at Mirfield certainly has the train overhanging both ends but manages to platform all the passenger facing doors I think (certainly does on p3, maybe not p1)

 

[SprinterMan]

Always nice to see another town get a through service to London

Adam

 

[westv]

I trust this won't make my 06:25 Monday morning service from Hull run late?
Also, is this the reason there are currently no AP fares available for this service for the 15/12?

Edit: Has the plan been postponed. There's no direct Bev to Kings X on HT's journey planner.

 

[Searle]

Checked EC/HT's planner and neither of them acknowledge the new service, which is odd.

Also, on OTT, the Beverley - Hull (and v.v.) are put in seperately from the Hull - Kings Cross leg, which is also odd :P

0602 Beverley - Hull
0625 Hull - Kings Cross

 

[Paul Duck]

On our journey planner the through serivce has disapeared to. On TRUST it appears as two seperate services now.
1A90 Beverley to Hull
then
1A91 Hull to Kings Cross
Hopefully its still going to run for the people of Beverley

 

[91103eastcoast]

Now it shows on RTT as 'Runs as required'. Have HT change their mind?

 

[westv]

Considering the number of people who get on the 6:25 at Hull (on Monday anyway) I can't really see any benefit starting at Beverley.

 

[Galaxy]

Lack of route clearance appears to be the issue.

 

[Stats]

Hull Trains have announced they hope to run this service in the new future once they get clearance from the ORR.

Louise Mendham, the rail firm's performance and planning manager, said: "Yesterday morning, we successfully trialled our first test run in readiness for the green light from the Office of Rail Regulation at the end of this month.

"This is something local people from Beverley and the East Riding have been telling us they have wanted for a long time.

"It is part of our ambitious plans to ensure that this year, the East Riding is connected to the capital via a direct service as never before."


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There may also be possible future expansion.

The move is First Hull Train's first foray into the East Riding's northern stations.

At present, the company only runs a Hull to London route.

However, Ms Mendham said the services could be a useful platform for further expansion.

She said: "It's just Beverley at the moment with these services.

"We've hopefully put that stepping stone there now, with our trains able to operate on that particular route.

"There's always opportunities in the future."


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[IanXC]

I noticed the other day that these services do appear in printed timetable booklets and posters.

 

[ainsworth74]

Very odd seeing a 180 at Beverly...

I'm going to have to wangle my way onto one of these services for the novelty factor methinks.

 

[David Dunning]

Very odd seeing a 180 at Beverly...

I'm amused by the comment from a reader of the Hull Daily Mail.

"So not really a DIRECT train if it goes to Hull first"

Readers also ask how Hull Trains runs the service post electrification to Hull.

 

[class26]

I'm amused by the comment from a reader of the Hull Daily Mail.

"So not really a DIRECT train if it goes to Hull first"

Readers also ask how Hull Trains runs the service post electrification to Hull.

IEP bi mode ?

 

[westv]

I did wonder why my 06:25 Monday service arrived at the platform at Hull after I did.