Looking at it, it looks as if they are getting subsidy for that to replace the 273 TM Travel service which could explain this area. I think it could really boost the loadings actually as Hulleys provide the Mon-Sat service here so having TM could have put people off so now having Hulleys all week could help all services in Bamford.Wish them luck with it, wiggle down to Bamford & Derwent on Sunday is not what I'd normally express on an express route, although Derwent definitely makes sense. Can't really imagine loads of custom from Bamford though personally.
Ahh - I wasn't aware the 273 had gone. Whats the deal with 271/272 - thats one of the few routes which hasn't gone back to pre-covid. With Hulley/First now running 50/50, when it used to be mostly First (and entirely First on Sundays).Looking at it, it looks as if they are getting subsidy for that to replace the 273 TM Travel service which could explain this area. I think it could really boost the loadings actually as Hulleys provide the Mon-Sat service here so having TM could have put people off so now having Hulleys all week could help all services in Bamford.
I don't think it has gone yet but the diversions only run on a Sunday and the only bus which runs to these areas on a Sundays is the 273. The 273 also follows the route into Sheffield so I think that is what is going on. I can't say for sure but it's how it looks.Ahh - I wasn't aware the 273 had gone. Whats the deal with 271/272 - thats one of the few routes which hasn't gone back to pre-covid. With Hulley/First now running 50/50, when it used to be mostly First (and entirely First on Sundays).
Coach station will have a lot less disruption I think as it would be wise to presume they will be using Hyde Road to enter the city so it's quite quick to get into Chorlton Street without hitting much traffic. Shudehill will cause more issues. I think on the times they have proposed as well which many have noted are quite tight, you will want to be minimising any potential of disruption as the service does have a quick turnaround.I do think they making a error going to outside Coach Station not Shudehill Manchester
Will be using a bus stand with no Customer care. if they use Piccadilly then on to Shudehill there it close to Men arena / shopping centre / megabus/ flixbus / metrolink. and has staff in event of issues who can inform people so people not waiting in cold. so win win for 10 more mins to get round but as there could be a stop at Piccadilly no one is forced to stay on. and people want city centre to city centre so it mean going to centre no one likes the coach Station and it a private one there and if your not from Manchester it not really the place you want to pick up a bus.Coach station will have a lot less disruption I think as it would be wise to presume they will be using Hyde Road to enter the city so it's quite quick to get into Chorlton Street without hitting much traffic. Shudehill will cause more issues. I think on the times they have proposed as well which many have noted are quite tight, you will want to be minimising any potential of disruption as the service does have a quick turnaround.
1710 from Manchester as the evening commuter service seems to be throwing away passengers, as those working in retail won't be ready that early. 1730 from Sheffield is more sensible, but I'd have stuck with xx45.
I wonder what bus they'll use on it. I am going to feel sorry for passengers traveling the whole route on a Optare Tempo or a Dart.
I don't think the coach station is a bad place to terminate. Only a few mins walk from the city centre.
There's unlikely to be many Sheffield to manchester commuters working retail. I agree with your sentiment that the buses could have been better times for commuters. 0645 from Manchester parriving into Sheffield 0800 is too early for a typical 0900 start, I find.
A double decker would definitely help draw in the punters for the views.
1710 from Manchester as the evening commuter service seems to be throwing away passengers, as those working in retail won't be ready that early. 1730 from Sheffield is more sensible, but I'd have stuck with xx45.
Launching this service just before winter may not be the best time to introduce it, given the propensity for the Snake Pass to be blocked by snow and ice. However, it may be particularly useful for passengers travelling to Sheffield University, the Royal Hallamshire Hospital and Sheffield Children's Hospital, which are sited on or close to Glossop Road.
The former NWRCC used to operate this route together with Sheffield JOC many years ago. There were 4 journeys per day, summer only, taking 150 minutes, but without the benefit of the M67 to bypass Hyde.
Sheffield JOC also used to operate a joint service between Sheffield and Manchester via Woodhead. There were up to 5 journeys per day, some all year, taking 135 minutes, but again without the benefit of the M67 to bypass Hyde; the service ran via Ashton-under-Lyne. The last vestiges of this other service were operated by National Express until earlier this year, latterly just 2 journeys per day.
I am astounded by the launch of this service and consider it inauspicious for it to be introduced at the start of winter. The eastern section as far as Ladybower is already served, but increasing the frequency to hourly may encourage use. Passing Sheffield University and the Royal Hallamshire Hospital may pick up some custom. It may be used by tourists/hikers on summer weekends - at one time Derbyshire CC used to fund such services across the Snake Pass. However, overall, I would seriously question its long-term viability.How long ago was this? 60s/70s? If the route hasn't been viable for the last 40+ years, why is it going to viable today?
How long ago was this? 60s/70s? If the route hasn't been viable for the last 40+ years, why is it going to viable today?