What state is the vegetation in?
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crispy1978
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I travelled this route on Friday and Sunday - the vegetation didn't seem particularly noticeable. I did see though on one of the photos there were some bales stacked up, and there are some bushes/small trees around - but as someone said it is a pretty straight track, I can't see they would have been a big obstruction unless the car/train was hidden from view from the other vehicle?
crispy1978
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Excellent info provided by OPs. The police have said that whether the deceased phoned the signalman before crossing was the key fact.
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There's some video footage of the scene on the Daily Mail website; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ruck-train-rail-crossing-North-Yorkshire.html
Daily Fail again, 08:48 Scarborough to London service
That aside, thoughts go to the driver of the car and his family.
Sighting time is irrelevant for vehicles crossing at this LX due to the presence of a telephone. It may still be in ALCRM (the level crossing risk model, and where the above data originates) if sighting may be a potential issue for pedestrians; alternatively the phone may have been installed in the past few years and the sighting issue has not been removed from the system. Personally I don't know.
Measuring sighting distances for level crossings is, oddly, a difficult task, and there has been much debate on it in the past few years. Even on dead straight lines sighting can be hampered by bridges, vegetation, embankments, stacks of farmers produce etc, as the point where the sighting is taken from has to be at least 2 metres (often more) from the nearest line.
Llanigraham
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I noticed that, and have a feeling I know why this incident happened!!
My thoughts to the train driver involved.
Absolutely. Its hard to even begin to imagine.
If anyone fancies a giggle:
A Daily Mail Reader said:
Sigh.
Seriously sad incident, as ever. Not good for the staff, victims or families involved, not good for the passegners, not good for the train company and not good for Network Rail.
I was thinking to myself that we'd been doing well in terms of accidents this year
GatwickDepress
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My thoughts go out to the family of the deceased and staff involved, especially the TPE driver. I can only imagine what it's like.
222001
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Some of the comments on the Daily Mail article make me despair, some include:
"Shocking, why does a fast track have crossings like this, totally stupid! I don't have any faith now in high speed trains!"
"Why didnt the triain driver slam on his brakes?"
"why are trains alloud to go so fast as a professional coach driver i am limited to 62 mph and all passengers must wear seat belts and i must be able to stop in the distance i see to be clear. trains should be the same and all passengers should wear seatbelts"
"Shocking, why does a fast track have crossings like this, totally stupid! I don't have any faith now in high speed trains!"
"Why didnt the triain driver slam on his brakes?"
"why are trains alloud to go so fast as a professional coach driver i am limited to 62 mph and all passengers must wear seat belts and i must be able to stop in the distance i see to be clear. trains should be the same and all passengers should wear seatbelts"
crispy1978
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Some of the DM comments are bewildering.
I'm still trying to work out what difference seatbelts would have made in this situation, given none of the passengers were injured. I suppose this person thinks the conductor should be seatbelted at all times as well.....
And I'd hardly call the TPE line from York to Scarborough particularly quick either - it certainly isn't a high speed line like York to London/Edinburgh. And the 62mph comment - well generally there aren't vehicles along side you, etc.....
I'm still trying to work out what difference seatbelts would have made in this situation, given none of the passengers were injured. I suppose this person thinks the conductor should be seatbelted at all times as well.....
And I'd hardly call the TPE line from York to Scarborough particularly quick either - it certainly isn't a high speed line like York to London/Edinburgh. And the 62mph comment - well generally there aren't vehicles along side you, etc.....
ValleyLines142
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Where was this? On the video?
Zoidberg
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They are taken from the comments left by readers (there are currently 179 comments) ... they appear under the article linked to i.e. at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ruck-train-rail-crossing-North-Yorkshire.html
ValleyLines142
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Oh I see. Thank you!
Still ridiculous, though. Especially that coach driver with the seatbelts. What if a train is full and standing?
Anyway, my thoughts as always go to the family of the victim and the driver of 1F63.
northwichcat
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You need Dave Gorman to come along and turn them in to one of his 'Found Poems' e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTZmDPhJ5NM
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